On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer <colo...@autistici.org> wrote: > On Thursday 04 October 2012 18:06:22 Carl Symons wrote: >> > - The webwords have a whole paragraph on recommendations, which are simply >> > not included in PA3. Tracking of user behavior is there, but it currently >> > isn't used anywhere (or is there a place I missed) because the >> > recommendation overlay was deactivated. People looking for the >> > recommendations would be in for a big disappointment, so I'm not sure if >> > we should mention them. >> It should come out. However, I just looked at the PA3 RC. It has the >> recommendation tab, but perhaps it doesn't really do anything. If that >> is the case, then the write up should be changed. > > I see, looks like it's made its way in again. Iirc it was removed before > because it didn't work as expected yet. > @Ivan: Do the recommendations work as expected by now or were they put back in > by accident? > >> > - I still don't think we should market Calligra Active in the announcement >> > like it's a full-fledged office suite. It is an office document _viewer_ >> > (with great compatibility for all kinds of office formats), no more, no >> > less. Sure we're not exactly lying because we don't mention editing >> > explicitly, but I still think that people reading this announcement would >> > expect editing capabilities and think something is broken when they start >> > Calligra Active and find no way to create or edit documents. Calligra >> > Active's badly designed home screen will only add to the confusion >> > because it looks as if you could create documents there, but you can't. >> > >> > I'm not a marketer so I don't know how much "over-hyping" is adequate, >> >> none. > > Okay, so we're on the same page here :) > >> Re: featuring Calligra Active in the announcement... >> The announcement certainly gave me the impression that it is a full >> office suite..."Calligra Active provides wordprocessor, spreadsheet, >> presentation and several other applications geared towards >> professional, as well as personal use." >> >> Just now playing with the latest version...Calligra Words, Sheets and >> Stage are in the launcher. As are Calligra Active and Mobile. Someone >> who's familiar with the use of these in Plasma Active should say how >> well they work with only a touch interface. > > Erm, they are not supposed to be in the launcher, only Calligra Active is (and > that's the case in the Mer image). Only Calligra Active works well on Plasma > Active, the others are the desktop versions which are understandably horrible > on a touchscreen.
By "in the Launcher" I mean that I can enter "Calligra" in the search box and those applications appear. So given the way that civilians will interact with the tablet, it is probably not a concern. Carl > >> No hype please. Not sometime down the road. What can they do now for users? >> >> We should under-promise and over-deliver. >> >> > I just fear disappointed and angry users who don't get what they were >> > promised. >> > PA3 is awesome with what it actually _can_ do, I don't think we should >> > advertise things it can't. >> >> This is correct. I agree completely, although I haven't explored all >> the possibilities so I don't know the extent of awesome. I have not >> used the Calligra apps for more than just messing around. And Calligra >> Active for viewing documents works well. >> Let me know what the scoop is and I'll rewrite it. > > Calligra Active is for viewing text documents, spreadsheets and presentations > (and in the case of presentations, actually presenting them ;) ). It offers > very good compatibility with MS Office as well as Open Document files which is > rare in the mobile space. There are no editing or creation features at all, > however. > The desktop Calligra applications should not show up in the launcher on > Active, they're only installed to serve as engines for Calligra Active and are > not supposed to be used in Plasma Active. > > I hope that helps. > > Thomas > _______________________________________________ > Active mailing list > Active@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/active _______________________________________________ Active mailing list Active@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/active