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W2K3 AD does single instance store of security descriptors which can save a lot of space over W2K AD.
 
Robbie Allen


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:51 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 2003 NTDS.DIT size

I blame it on cold water. Oh, you don't mean that shrinkage.
 
From what I understand, its due to improvements in the database format and how data is stored within. I'm guessing that they've rearranged the table structures to better fit the actual usage patterns.
 
Roger
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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
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From: Joe Baguley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:40 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 2003 NTDS.DIT size

DIT size decreases are certainly what I am seeing in the field, with an 80,000 user AD I deal with shrinking in a similar fashion to the Compaq/HP one described below...

 

Surely some people on here will be able to explain the shrinkage....

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: 15 January 2004 13:19
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 2003 NTDS.DIT size

 

According to Tony Redmond's Exchange 2003 book, the HP/Compaq combined DIT file was 12GB in AD on Win2k and dropped to 7GB under 2003. Not sure how typical that is.

 

I'd think worst case you'd end up about the same place you are now. IIRC, there aren't that many schema changes, so the structural size shouldn't change that much.

 

Roger

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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Parker, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:03 AM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] 2003 NTDS.DIT size

All,

 

We have 53,000 user AD environment.  The current size of the NTDS.DIT is just under 2GB.

 

I am reading Chapter 9 of the 2003 planning document and on page 368 it states:

 

"On the drive that will contain the Active Directory database, NTDS.dit, provide 0.4 gigabytes (GB)  of storage for each 1,000 users.  ..."

 

 

Now, if this is true, that is saying when I upgrade to 2003, my database will grow from 2GB to 21GB.   This seems a little hard to believe.  We are going to be doing this in the lab shortly, but we are planning additional hardware, and this seems a little "off".

 

 

Can anyone confirm this?

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