That was me. That and the Joeware trucker hat. :-P
> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 7:38 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 2003 DC Promo Question.... > > You said you bought the thong.... And I didn't make you! > > > joe > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Wells > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 7:16 PM > To: Send - AD mailing list > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 2003 DC Promo Question.... > > Nothing personal Todd ... I don't like you any less than the > next person :-) > except maybe those "persons" who develop free Active > Directory tools and > then make you wear their tee-shirts ;-) > > 28 seconds ... phew, I thought I was going to go over on that one! > > -- > Dean Wells > MSEtechnology > * Tel: +1 (954) 501-4307 > * Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://msetechnology.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd > (NIH/CIT) > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 6:40 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 2003 DC Promo Question.... > > I must not have been nice to the folks at the DEC in DC. > Dean wasn't even > there though, so he doesn't have a reason to be snubbing me. > > Todd > > -----Original Message----- > From: joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 6:06 PM > To: 'joe'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 2003 DC Promo Question.... > > And BTW, where were all you smart guys earlier when Todd was > in need of an > answer and you could have responded before I made myself look > like a boob. > > Oh yeah, good to see you posting again Guido. > > Oh and Dean, you have been quiet lately too, but good to see > you are still > watching for my dumb-a** posts so you can thump me right proper. :o) > > joe > > -----Original Message----- > From: joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 6:04 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 2003 DC Promo Question.... > > Yeah, I looked around, I can't find where I might have read > that and it was > a long time ago. I found a doc that I could have interpreted > that way had I > been out drinking with Guido and Dean, but not sober. So > either I was drunk > or the doc disappeared, though I swear I had heard this > separately as well > as I recall being, WTF! But then wasn't too worried as I do not do OS > upgrades unless it is absolutely unavoidable which is almost > never (NT4 to > 2K was an exception, at least for the PDC...) > > Todd, I am curious what you saw now as I had it in my mind it was a > possibility. Now it seems it insn't so what happened? > > > joe > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Grillenmeier, Guido > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 5:40 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 2003 DC Promo Question.... > > I can confirm that you have to tranfer the role manually - > 2003 won't try to > do this by itself. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Wells > Sent: Freitag, 9. Juli 2004 16:32 > To: Send - AD mailing list > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 2003 DC Promo Question.... > > Hmmm ... re: "If you do an OS Upgrade from 2K to K3 on a > Domain Controller I > believe it will pull the PDC functionality to it"; nothing > I've witnessed > would seem to back that up. In the event I'm just a bad > witness or someone > with the retention of a Gold Fish and they do indeed do that, > it's just > plain wrong, wrong, wrong. PDC physical placement is > important in certain > scenarios, to arbitrarily move the role during an upgrade > process could have > significant security implications. > > -- > Dean Wells > MSEtechnology > * Tel: +1 (954) 501-4307 > * Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://msetechnology.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 9:49 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 2003 DC Promo Question.... > > Hey Todd. > > If you do an OS Upgrade from 2K to K3 on a Domain Controller > I believe it > will pull the PDC functionality to it. If you DCPROMO in a > fresh K3 it will > not pull the role from what I have seen with the domains I have been > involved with. Personally though, I am not into upgrades of OSes, much > rather wipe and reload. A brilliant friend of mine once came up with a > method for us to do that remotely that we used for NT4 to 2K. > We would shoot > the load down to the machine, then fire up a script that > would look at some > config info and store it, then boot into Win98 and slam the > load down on the > machine and reconfigure it when it finished rebuilding. > > While you should move those roles I don't believe there is an absolute > requirement EXCEPT for the Domain Naming role which may be needed for > setting up DNS App partitions. The PDC role should be moved > just so that it > can create the new security principals that K3 has that are > already ACLed on > your directory (look at the dsacls output of your domain > after the domain > prep and you will see unresolved SIDS), however I do not > believe there is a > requirement to keep it there or in fact do it at all. I am > sure if I am > wrong ~Eric will chime in or someone else will say something > though I am > surprised I see no responses to this post and it was sent a > couple of weeks > ago... > > joe > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd > (NIH/CIT) > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:58 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [ActiveDir] 2003 DC Promo Question.... > > > Greetings, > > I have a Windows 2000 forest that has been Forest Prepped and > had the root > domain of the forest domain prepped as well as another domain > tree root > domain prepped. > > I plan to follow the recommendations outlined in the article > below in order > to upgrade to 2003. My plan is to transfer FSMO roles to > 2000 machines, and > DCPROMO down existing DC's. Rebuild them as 2003 Servers > then DCPROMO the > box. According to my experience and what is outlined below > in the article. > The first DC's that are joined to the domain need to be > servers that hold > PDC and DNC FSMO roles. My experience was that when I tried > the method > outlined above, the first New 2003 DC joined to the root > forest took on the > PDC emulator role automatically. (I did this back in November 2003) > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;325379 > > I want to verify this behavior because there is a movement in > my group to > want to deploy new 2003 DC's before upgrading the FSMO role holders. > One > person on my team says that the wording in the Q article > isn't clear enough, > that you must upgrade the FSMO role holders. > > So I bring this to the AD guru list to help me verify my > perceptions, and to > help answer any remaining questions. > > Thanks in advance, > > Todd > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
