All - I've been informed by more than a few folks on this list that I am, for the most part, completely and utterly wrong on this topic.
I apologize for any and all misinformation that I have conveyed, and will refrain from posting on topics that I don't have complete and total knowledge of the full circumstances surrounding the issue. Rick [msft] -- Posting is provided "AS IS", and confers no rights or warranties ... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 9:06 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] FYI: MS-KBQ909360 - Potential file corruption on NTFS volumes Ken, I agree completely. What I find very interesting in reading this KB is that it appears that the problem did NOT exist pre-Windows Server 2003 SP1, and that a series of very specific conditions need to be met. The third seems to be the element that makes this more unlikely to occur - "The scenario involves approximately 1000 simultaneous delete, create, or extend operations on files". What I find most interesting about this KB, and kudos to our stress team - is it seems that we discovered this internally and that no scale of customer impact seems to have occurred. (I don't know this for fact to be true - I just suspect it to be so because some of the Lists that I monitor internally haven't notified us of a large scale impact.) Rick [msft] -- Posting is provided "AS IS", and confers no rights or warranties ... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 12:26 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] FYI: MS-KBQ909360 - Potential file corruption on NTFS volumes Frankly my expectation from a file system that's marked as being robust and enterprise ready is that you should lose nothing if the drive is "almost full", and the file system should shut down gracefully if the drive is full, especially in normal situations. Sysadmins should not have to worry that they'll lose data to corruption if the drive is "almost full" in the normal course of events. If you're doing something like the extreme use cases noted in the KB article, then that's possibly a different situation, but in that type of situation you're probably monitoring your disks with an eagle eye anyway. Additionally, Microsoft is correct to warn that a potential issue does exist. Cheers Ken -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2005 3:08 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] FYI: MS-KBQ909360 - Potential file corruption on NTFS volumes Is it me or is that a dumb KB? "A volume is full or almost full." Yeah data will start getting screwed up when you have that situation. In SBSland we lose our CAL licenses and other such fun things on a too tight drive. Almeida Pinto, Jorge de wrote: >FYI > >Potential file corruption problem on NTFS volumes during extensive >stress tests in Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;909360 > >Cheers, >Jorge List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
