Hi,
 
What do you mean with "I will have to delegate him permissions at the top since 
he can't be an Account Operator anymore". And by the way... which top?
 
Jorge

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Tony Murray
Sent: Tue 12/20/2005 8:55 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] adminCount attribute


That's correct.  In Windows 2000 SP4 and in Windows Server 2003 the Account 
Operators group is protected. 
 
For a full list of protected groups and accounts, see the following KB article.
 
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=907434
 
Tony

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rimmerman, Russ
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2005 8:24 a.m.
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] adminCount attribute


I did just find that he's a member of a group which is a member of Account 
Operators group.  So I need to remove him from this group in order for his 
adminCount to stay <not set>?  If that's true, then I will have to delegate him 
permissions at the top since he can't be an Account Operator anymore.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rimmerman, Russ
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:19 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] adminCount attribute


The user was removed from all protected groups long ago.  The problem is, his 
adminCount attribute is still getting set back to 1.  I set it to <not set>, 
enable ACL inheritence and set his default permissions back, and an hour later 
I re-check his account and adminCount is set back to 1, and the security 
context on his account isn't correct anymore again.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, 
Jorge de
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 9:10 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] adminCount attribute


The adminsdholder process only looks at users and groups that are defined in AD 
as protected objects. As mentioned in MS-KBQ817433 - "Delegated permissions are 
not available and inheritance is automatically disabled" it is possible to 
include or exclude some of the default admin groups (account operators, print 
operators ,etc.) The process that checks object against the adminSDHolder 
object only looks at that definition of protected objects and in case of groups 
it will also look at its members. It resets the DACL to match the DACL of the 
adminSDHolder object and sets the admincount attribute to 1 and disables ACL 
inheritance on the protected object
The group membership of a protected group is the criteria the process looks at, 
not the attribute value of 1. The admincount attribute is just an 
administrative measure for the process that says "been here", nothing else.
 
So if you want the user not being protected anymore by adminsdholder, remove 
its membership from the protected groups (default MS admin groups). When that 
is done enable ACL inheritance, reset the default permissions and set 
adminCount=<not set>
 
Cheers,
jorge

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rimmerman, Russ
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 15:49
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] adminCount attribute


I have a user that was migrated from our old NT4 domain into our AD domain as a 
domain admin.  We removed him from domain admins on the AD side.
 
I set his 'adminCount' attribute to <blank> from 1 so others could modify his 
account. 
 
Every time I blank out the 1 setting, I look the next day and it's set back to 
1.  I know there's some protection on these types of accounts set into AD, but 
how do I prevent this from auto-changing back to 1 each time I set it to 
<blank>?
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