that is interesting in deed - then your case is similar to Aric's
afterall. I was thrown off by the ADPREP error message stating "...for
objects defined in Windows 2000 schema..." - but this way Aric might
have simply been one of the first to encounter the issue as at the time
it wasn't a known issue :-)

keep us posted - esp. if you get a link to more information or anything
appropriate to share.

/Guido

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Michael M.
Sent: Freitag, 17. Februar 2006 20:18
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?

Our MS TAM has indicated this is a known bug!  I will keep the group
posted as I learn more details.

Mike Thommes

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Michael M.
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:52 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?

As an update to this thread, we transferred the Schema Master role back
to other DC that has the SFU tools installed originally thinking this
might get the R2 schema update to work.  Wrong!  It fails with the same
error.  I can only imagine we do not have that unique an environment in
our testbed and expect others to have the same experience.  Luckily, we
never put SFU 3.5 on our production systems.  

We are going to open up a trouble ticket with Microsoft regarding this
issue.  I would like to hear of others' experiences (success or failure)
when trying to install R2 in an environment where SFU 3.5 had been
installed.  Thanks!

Mike Thommes

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Michael M.
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:07 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?

Hi Guido,
   Thanks for the response!  This server is Windows 2003/SP1 with all
but the current month's patches.  It is the current FSMO role holder.  I
did some checking this morning and find the SFU 3.5 tools on another DC
that could have been the FSMO role holder at the time the SFU schema
changes were made.  I don't see why that would make any difference, do
you?

-mike

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Guido
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:00 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?

Mike - I see you're upgrading from Win2000 AD. Are your sure that you've
previously installed SFU 3.5 or was it maybe SFU 2.0 ?

The reason I'm asking is that there's a known schema incompatibility
with SFU 2.0:
check out http://support.microsoft.com/?id=293783 "Cannot Upgrade
Windows 2000 Server to Windows Server 2003 with Windows Services for
UNIX 2.0 Installed"

CAUSE
The upgrade may not work because the attributeSchema 'uid' that is used
by Windows 2000 Server for the NIS schema is not compatible with the one
that is used by Windows Server 2003. 

As such your error is likely independent from the changes in the R2
schema - it's actually an incompatibility in the Win2003 base schema
(not that this really matters for you; I just want to clarify that the
error should be unrelated to R2). As such it's different from Aric's
case, who was performing an upgrade from a Win2003 schema to Win2003
R2...


/Guido

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Michael M.
Sent: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2006 02:53
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?

Hi Aric,
    No, there were a lot more errors - all seem to be related to SFU
attributes.  I only copied a small portion to my posting to save
bandwidth.  Painful = time = headaches  8-(  I was expecting this
upgrade to be a "walk in the park".

Mike Thommes

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Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:46 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?

Are these the only two errors you received?

I encountered similar errors during beta testing when I implemented R2
in an existing forest - but a lot more than just 2. :)  I created a
secondary forest and validated that it did not recur.  Note that I also
had SFU installed in the original forest and the new secondary forest.

I was able to clean up the schema in the existing forest exhibiting the
errors but it was a fairly painful process of what seemed to be a goose
chase.  The tasks included disabling objects attributes in the schema
and renaming them amongst other things.

Fortunately I have not heard of this happening in production...yet.

So can these errors be ignored?  If I remember correctly ADPrep is
actually failing and therefore NO you cannot ignore these errors since
ADPREP will nto occur until they are resolved.

Regards,

Aric

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Michael M.
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:22 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?

Hi,
    We did a adprep /forestprep from the W2K3/SP1 R2 Disk 2 CD today on
our testbed FSMO DC.  It gave the following errors (only a portion shown
below) because, I am guessing, that we had already installed SFU 3.5 on
this forest some time ago.  Should I assume these errors can be ignored?
Has anybody else experienced this?  Thanks as always!

Mike Thommes

====================================================================

"attributeId" attribute value for objects defined in Windows 2000 schema
and ext
ended schema do not match.


A previous schema extension has defined the attribute value as
"1.2.840.113556.1
.4.7000.187.70" for object
"CN=uidNumber,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=anl,DC=go
v" differently than the schema extension needed for Windows 2003 server
.
[Status/Consequence]
Adprep cannot extend your existing schema
[User Action]
Contact the vendor of the application that previously extended the
schema to res
olve the inconsistency. Then run adprep again.




========================================================================
=====
"attributeId" attribute value for objects defined in Windows 2000 schema
and ext
ended schema do not match.


A previous schema extension has defined the attribute value as
"1.2.840.113556.1
.4.7000.187.71" for object
"CN=gidNumber,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=anl,DC=go
v" differently than the schema extension needed for Windows 2003 server
.
[Status/Consequence]
Adprep cannot extend your existing schema
[User Action]
Contact the vendor of the application that previously extended the
schema to res
olve the inconsistency. Then run adprep again.


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