RE: AGI Complexity (WAS: RE: [agi] "doubling time" watcher.)

[Ben Goertzel]

Yeah, I don't think your statement is true...   And I'm a huge advocate of the "integrative" approach.  My feeling is that  maybe half of the ingredients of an AGI are things that were created for other (usually narrow AI) purposes and can be used, not "off the shelf", but with only moderate rather than severe modifications.  The other half are things that are certainly *related* to known science, but are unique to AGI, without a significant use as "standalone" systems.   For example, overall regulation of system attention (focus) is a big part of any AGI system, and I don't think any non-AGI algorithms are ever going to be helpful for solving the problem in an AGI context.  (Novamente has its own way of doing this, which does not draw on any narrow-AI or general-Cs methods except loosely).   I note that at least one famous AI guy -- Danny Hillis -- agrees with you though.  That's part of the reason he gave up on AI work.  He figures AGI is "just a lot of little things" and he's working on some of the little things now, not on the big picture.  Of course, this philosophy is probably why his company Thinking Machines didn't have a coordinated AI research program, instead it worked on a lot of different things using a common hardware architecture...   -- Ben G -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Deering Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AGI Complexity (WAS: RE: [agi] "doubling time" watcher.) Billy, I agree that AGI is a complicated architecture of hundreds of separarate software solutions.  But all of these solutions have utility in other software environments and progress is being made by tens of thousands of programmers each working on improving some little software function for some other purpose that they have no idea will someday be used in AGI.  There is nothing truly unique about the functional building blocks of AGI, just the overall architecture.     Having gone way out on a limb here, all you AGI experts can now start sawing.     Mike Deering. www.SingularityActionGroup.com    <---new website.