Sorry, noticed that after I posted, acting autonomously given that it is acting Intelligently as well. I was assuming the existence of an AGI / intelligent machine, and being asked about the "consciousness" of that.
An AGI that plans, reasons, and acts autonomously would be conscious. Where the actual "acting" of course must be measured to some degree. >Suppose you build a human level AGI, and argue >that it is not autonomous no matter what it does, because it is >deterministically executing a program. It appears from the discussions here that it is virtually impossible to determine if an intelligence (AGI/human) acts deterministically, so any actions that reach a certain level of complexity must be gauged to be non-deterministic, or conversely, if the AGI acts complexly enough at a level of human action, then it would be considered the autonomous. James Ratcliff Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- James Ratcliff wrote: > > >But you haven't answered my question. How do you test if a machine is > >conscious, and is therefore (1) dangerous, and (2) deserving of human > rights? > > Easily, once it acts autonomously, not based on your direct given goals and > orders, when it begins acting and generating its own new goals. > After that all bets are off, and its a 'being' in its own right. Not so easy. A random number generator acts autonomously, or at least appears to. A malfunctioning flight control system that refuses to obey commands from the pilot also appears to be acting autonomously, according to goals not specified by its builders. Suppose you build a human level AGI, and argue that it is not autonomous no matter what it does, because it is deterministically executing a program. -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&; _______________________________________ James Ratcliff - http://falazar.com Looking for something... --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=231415&user_secret=e9e40a7e
