On 20/04/2008, Derek Zahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > William Pearson writes: > > > Consider an AI learning chess, it is told in plain english that... > > I think the points you are striving for (assuming I understand what you > mean) are very important and interesting. Even the first simplest steps > toward this clear and (seemingly) simple task baffle me. How does the > concept of 'knight' poof into existence during the conversation? >
One has to have grounding: prior experience with checkers, or parchesi or other board games, and thus the concept of moving a gamepiece on a board. And, prior to that, the concept of 3D space,e.g. that of shoving a toy around on the floor. Also, the concept of having something taken away from them: something one wants to have but can't. In humans, desires seem grounded in biology, but then, like colorful tropical birds with bzarre mating rituals, grow to be their own (biology-unmotivated) thing. Only after one has mastered these concepts is one ready to understand a knight. How does a system learn how to learn to play a game in the first place? > Well, one has to be psychologically motivated to participate. There has to be some motivator to make one want to learn. My experience with children shows that they lack motivators for most things, bar one: if they can get Dad's attention, they're willing to try anything. I like this task as a tool for considering how a potential AGI approach is > truly general -- by asking over and over again "how and why could that > happen" for any imagining of how each > I think most researchers are in general agreement with you on this. Thus the current focus on integrating knowledge-bases, and 3D spatial knowledge, with a 3D (virtual) body, and, to a lesser degree, psychological/motivational desires/needs. --linas ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=101455710-f059c4 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com