That goes back to my previous point on the amount and type of information our brain is able to extract from a visual input. It would be truly difficult I say, even using advanced types of neural nets, to give a set of examples of chairs, such as the ones Mike linked to, and let the machine recognize any subsequent object as chiar, given *only* the visual stimuli.
That's why I think it's amazing what kind of info we extract from visual input, in fact it is anything but visual. Suppose for example that you wanted to take pictures of the concept 'force'. When we see a force we can recognize one, and the concept 'force' is very clearly defined.. i.e. something is either a force or is not, there is no fuzzyiness in the concept. But teaching a machine to recognize it visually.. well that's a different story. A practical example: before I learned rock-climbing I saw not only rocks, but the space around me in a different way. Now just by looking at a room or space I see all sorts of hooks, places to hang on that I would never have thought of before.. I learned to 'read' the image differently, that is, to extract different types of information from before. In the same manner, my mother who is a Sommelier, by smelling wine can extract all sorts of information about its provenience, the way it was made, the kind of ingredients, that I could never think of (thus now I am shifting from visual input to odor input). To me it just smells like wine :) My point is that our brain *combines* visual or other stimuli with a bank of *non-*visual data in order to extract relevant information. That's why talking about AGI from a purely visual perspective (or purely verbal) takes it out of context from the way we experience the world. But you could prove me wrong by building a machine that using *only* visual input can recognize forces :) ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=108809214-a0d121 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com