Well, there is a major question whether one can meaningfully address AGI via virtual-robotics rather than physical-robotics
No one can make a convincing proof either way right now But, it's clear that if one wants to go the physical-robotics direction, now is not the time to be working on preschools and cognition. In that case, we need to be focusing on vision and grasping and walking and such. OTOH, if one wants to go the virtual-robotics direction (as is my intuition), then it is possible to bypass many of the lower-level perception/actuation issues and focus on preschool-level learning, reasoning and conceptual creation. And there's no need to write a paper on the eventual possibility of putting robots in real preschools: that's obvious. But it's also far beyond the scope of contemporary robots, as would be univerally. Whereas virtual preschool is not as *obviously* far beyond the scope of contemporary AGI designs (at least according to some experts, like me), which is what makes it more interesting in the present moment... ben g -- Ben G On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Philip Hunt <cabala...@googlemail.com>wrote: > 2008/12/19 Ben Goertzel <b...@goertzel.org>: > > > > What I'd like to see is a really nicely implemented "virtual world > > preschool" for AIs ... though of course building such a thing will be a > lot > > of work for someone... > > Why a virtual world preschool and not a real one? > > A virtual world, if not programmed accurately, may be subtly > differernet from the real world, so that for example an AGI is capable > of picking up and using a screwdriver in the virtual world but not > real real world, because the real world is more complex. > > If you want your AGI to be able to use a screwdriver, you probably > need to train it in the real world (at least some of the time). > > If you don't care whether your AGI can use a screwdriver, why have one > in the virtual world? > > -- > Philip Hunt, <cabala...@googlemail.com> > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > ------------------------------------------- > agi > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > -- Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC Director of Research, SIAI b...@goertzel.org "I intend to live forever, or die trying." -- Groucho Marx ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=123753653-47f84b Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
