You can't learn language from language without embedding way more knowledge than is reasonable. Language does not contain the information required for its interpretation. There is no *reason* to interpret the language into any of the infinite possible interpretaions. There is nothing to explain but it requires explanatory reasoning to determine the correct real world interpretation
On Jun 29, 2010 10:58 AM, "Matt Mahoney" <matmaho...@yahoo.com> wrote: David Jones wrote: > Natural language requires more than the words on the page in the real world. Of... Any knowledge that can be demonstrated over a text-only channel (as in the Turing test) can also be learned over a text-only channel. > Cyc also is trying to store knowledge about a super complicated world in simplistic forms and al... Cyc failed because it lacks natural language. The vast knowledge store of the internet is unintelligible to Cyc. The average person can't use it because they don't speak Cycl and because they have neither the ability nor the patience to translate their implicit thoughts into augmented first order logic. Cyc's approach was understandable when they started in 1984 when they had neither the internet nor the vast computing power that is required to learn natural language from unlabeled examples like children do. > Vision and other sensory interpretaion, on the other hand, do not require more info because that... Without natural language, your system will fail too. You don't have enough computing power to learn language, much less the million times more computing power you need to learn to see. -- Matt Mahoney, matmaho...@yahoo.com ________________________________ From: David Jones <davidher...@gmail.com> To: agi <a...@v2.listbox.c... *Sent:* Mon, June 28, 2010 9:28:57 PM Subject: Re: [agi] A Primary Distinction for an AGI Natural language requires more than the words on the page in the real world. Of course that didn't ... *agi* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/> | Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription <http://www.listbox.com> ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
