At Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:24:52 +0300,
Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:11:44 +0200
> Ákos Maróy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > The default format for dsnoop is S16, and ice1712 supports only
> > > S32_LE.  You have to set the format parameter in slave pcm of dsnoop,
> > > too.
> > 
> > 
> > thanks, now it works!
> > 
> > 
> > Akos
> > 
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> 
> Guys/girls,
> 
> do we always need the developers to understand that something is wrong
> with ALSA configuration ?
> 
> Shouldn't ALSA SW scream loudly that the requested S16 format is not supported
> by the card ?
> 
> Can't ALSA SW suggest on such occasions what the supported formats are ?
> 
> To me the whole plugin syntax checking looks like a compiler that never
> reports user errors.
> 
> Is it the way compilers should be written ?
> 
> Is this non-error-reporting because of HW manufacturers don't want to make
> specs known or because of the decisions made by ALSA developers ?
> 
> Should a bug report be filed ?

You're right about that the syntax checking or error messages could be
improved.  But I have no big interest to improve this _right now_.
The more important thing is to provide a reasonable default setting
that you don't have to play with the extra configuration.  So, don't
count me in this action.

(In this case, he doesn't have to set up such a dsnoop configuration
 at all, as I mentioned in another mail.  The default setup should
 work as it is.)

BTW, a user-friendly error message is one of the most difficult thing
in programs.  Surely you've seen many examples from popluar and basic
programs like gcc or (La)TeX...

Anyway, as always, any improvement patches are welcome :)


Takashi


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