lol wtf ? why the irony ? and why the email without any meaningful info, you 
know I'm all excited when I get an 
answer to one of my posts, and I'm very disappointed when the answer is not 
meaningful... now I hate you :'(

/me should also get back to work (what tag?)

KKRT

On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 03:05:39PM +0200, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
> 
> <Don-t-take-me-seriously>
> 
> Mr Youness "KaKaRoTo" Alaoui has just reinvented the wheel! Yes, ladies 
> and gentlemen, this is a new, reloaded version of the wheel, very energy 
> efficient, it has nearly 0 friction with its axis, AND, it can even climb 
> stairs!
> 
> </Don-t-take-me-seriously>
> 
> I should get back to work now .... (i *DID* close that tag, didn't i?)
> 
> On Thu, 14 Dec 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:
> 
> > no, I checked, don't worry, and there is none, all of the libraries 
> > available seem to be using an html version 
> > (gmail.com/mail?ui=html) and parsing that html code, mine uses a special 
> > type of data, fully binary.. 
> > (gmail.com/mail?ui=pb)very bandwidth efficient (when no email, only 3 bytes 
> > transferred), etc...
> > I read part of the code of the gmail agent API but that didn't help as it's 
> > two completely different methods.
> > don't worry, I'm not stupid! :) (well.. sometimes :p)
> > 
> > KaKaRoTo
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 10:26:56AM +0100, Karel Demeyer wrote:
> > > I think this whole protocol is already reverse-engeneerd, or mayeb
> > > google even publishes it ?  THe last might not be true .. but you could
> > > find a whole lotta information with ... google, no ?
> > > 
> > > e.g.:
> > > http://www.johnvey.com/features/gmailapi/ ?
> > > 
> > > Karel.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Op donderdag 14-12-2006 om 01:46 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Youness
> > > Alaoui:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > I updated this wiki page with more accurate information about 
> > > > the GData (I named it like that :D) format : 
> > > > http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/index.php/Gmail
> > > > If someone is ready to take on the challenge of finding out how the 
> > > > timestamp is written, please do so, it 
> > > > would be nice to have that information ready for when I finish my 
> > > > exams... It's really easy, I just don't have 
> > > > much time for it right now...
> > > > Also, I'd like to know how you'd like me to implement the 'tell me' 
> > > > functionality of the plugin... should I show 
> > > > a popup window with that information (like the official google 
> > > > notifier), or should I rather show a window with 
> > > > a listbox of all new emails and the user clicks on the email to see 
> > > > more information...
> > > > I would go with the notify (more userfriendly) but I'm afraid I won't 
> > > > be able to give the full functionality to 
> > > > the users (like seeing who initiated a conversation, what the labels 
> > > > are, attachments, etc... ) easily...
> > > > I will also need to have a up/down buttons on the notify window so a 
> > > > user can view the mail info one by one.. 
> > > > Any suggestions ? someone wants to implement the notify winodw ? Tom 
> > > > perhaps? I know you love to play with 
> > > > canvas (and I have near zero knowledge of how canvas work...)
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > KaKaRoTo
> > > > 
> > > > ----- Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----
> > > > 
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: [Amsn-commits] SF.net SVN: amsn: [7657]
> > > >         trunk/amsn-extras/plugins/gnotify
> > > > 
> > > > Revision: 7657
> > > >           http://svn.sourceforge.net/amsn/?rev=7657&view=rev
> > > > Author:   kakaroto
> > > > Date:     2006-12-13 22:39:46 -0800 (Wed, 13 Dec 2006)
> > > > 
> > > > Log Message:
> > > > -----------
> > > > Updated with some comments and taking into account the 'new' and 
> > > > 'initiator' keys of an unread mail author information.
> > > > Also fixed the timestamp parsing which is two separate keys with values 
> > > > instead of a single 16 bytes header.
> > > > http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/index.php/Gmail
> > > > 
> > > > Modified Paths:
> > > > --------------
> > > >     trunk/amsn-extras/plugins/gnotify/gnotify.tcl
> > > > 
> > > > Property Changed:
> > > > ----------------
> > > >     trunk/amsn-extras/plugins/gnotify/
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Property changes on: trunk/amsn-extras/plugins/gnotify
> > > > ___________________________________________________________________
> > > > Name: svn:ignore
> > > >    + *
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Modified: trunk/amsn-extras/plugins/gnotify/gnotify.tcl
> > > > ===================================================================
> > > > --- trunk/amsn-extras/plugins/gnotify/gnotify.tcl       2006-12-13 
> > > > 21:17:15 UTC (rev 7656)
> > > > +++ trunk/amsn-extras/plugins/gnotify/gnotify.tcl       2006-12-14 
> > > > 06:39:46 UTC (rev 7657)
> > > > @@ -7,6 +7,8 @@
> > > >  ###################################################################
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > +# For more information on the format and protocol read this article :
> > > > +# http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/index.php/Gmail
> > > >  namespace eval ::gnotify {
> > > >         variable config
> > > >         variable configlist
> > > > @@ -404,13 +406,14 @@
> > > >                                                 puts "$att "
> > > >                                         }
> > > >                                 }
> > > > -                       #       if {[llength $mail(tags)] > 0 } {
> > > > -                       #               puts -nonewline "tags : "
> > > > -                       #               foreach tag $mail(tags) {
> > > > -                       #                       puts -nonewline "$tag, "
> > > > -                       #               }
> > > > -                       #       }
> > > > +                               if {[llength $mail(tags)] > 0 } {
> > > > +                                       puts -nonewline "tags : "
> > > > +                                       foreach tag $mail(tags) {
> > > > +                                               puts -nonewline "$tag, "
> > > > +                                       }
> > > > +                               }
> > > >                                 puts ""
> > > > +                               #puts "Timestamp : $mail(timestamp)"
> > > >                         }
> > > >                 }
> > > >         }
> > > > @@ -634,28 +637,37 @@
> > > >  
> > > >                 set start $data(offset)
> > > >                 set end [expr {$start + $size}]
> > > > -               set info(author) [list email "" nick ""]
> > > > +               set info(author) [list errors 0 email "" nick ""]
> > > > +               set info(new) 0
> > > > +               set info(initiator) 0
> > > >                 set info(errors) 0
> > > >  
> > > >                 while {$data(offset) < $end } {
> > > >                         set key [ReadKey data]
> > > >                         switch -- $key {
> > > >                                 10 {
> > > > +                                       # 0x0A Author info
> > > >                                         set size [ReadSize data]
> > > >                                         set offset $data(offset)
> > > >                                         set info(author) 
> > > > [GetMailAuthor2 data $size]
> > > >                                         set data(offset) [expr {$offset 
> > > > + $size}]       
> > > >                                 }
> > > > -                               16 {
> > > > -                                       # unknown
> > > > -                                       GetMultiByte $var
> > > > +                               16 {    
> > > > +                                       # 0x10 Has unread mail
> > > > +                                       # This key specifies whether an 
> > > > email of this author in the thread is unread
> > > > +                                       if { [GetMultiByte $var] == 1} {
> > > > +                                               set info(new) 1
> > > > +                                       } 
> > > >                                 }
> > > >                                 24 {
> > > > -                                       # unknown
> > > > -                                       GetMultiByte $var
> > > > +                                       # 0x18 Thread Initiator
> > > > +                                       # This key specifies whether 
> > > > this user is the one who started the thread
> > > > +                                       if { [GetMultiByte $var] == 1} {
> > > > +                                               set info(initiator) 1
> > > > +                                       } 
> > > >                                 } 
> > > >                                 default {
> > > > -                                       puts "Unknown author key : $key"
> > > > +                                       puts "Unknown author 
> > > > ($info(author)) key : $key"
> > > >                                         incr info(errors)
> > > >                                 }
> > > >                         }
> > > > @@ -678,11 +690,13 @@
> > > >                         set key [ReadKey data]
> > > >                         switch -- $key {
> > > >                                 10 {
> > > > +                                       # 0x0A Email
> > > >                                         set size [ReadSize data]
> > > >                                         set email [DecodeString 
> > > > [GetBytes data $size]]
> > > >                                         set info(email) $email
> > > >                                 }
> > > >                                 18 {
> > > > +                                       # 0x12 Name
> > > >                                         set size [ReadSize data]
> > > >                                         set nick [DecodeString 
> > > > [GetBytes data $size]]
> > > >                                         set info(nick) $nick
> > > > @@ -702,9 +716,9 @@
> > > >  
> > > >                 set start $data(offset)
> > > >                 set end [expr {$start + $size}]
> > > > -               set timestamp_size [GetMultiByte $var]
> > > >  
> > > > -               set info(timestamp) [GetBytes data $timestamp_size]
> > > > +               set info(timestamp) ""
> > > > +               set info(timestamp2) ""
> > > >                 set info(attachments) [list]
> > > >                 set info(tags) [list]
> > > >                 set info(authors) [list]
> > > > @@ -713,41 +727,59 @@
> > > >                 set info(threads) 1
> > > >                 set info(errors) 0
> > > >  
> > > > +
> > > > +
> > > >                 while {$data(offset) < $end } {
> > > >                         set key [ReadKey data]
> > > >                         switch -- $key {
> > > > +                               16 {
> > > > +                                       # 0x10 unknown / timestamp
> > > > +                                       #puts "Unknown mail key 16 has 
> > > > value : [GetMultiByte $var]"
> > > > +                                       set info(timestamp)  
> > > > [GetMultiByte $var]
> > > > +                               } 
> > > > +                               24 {
> > > > +                                       # 0x18 unknown / timestamp
> > > > +                                       #puts "Unknown mail key 24 has 
> > > > value : [GetMultiByte $var]"
> > > > +                                       set info(timestamp2)  
> > > > [GetMultiByte $var]
> > > > +                               }
> > > >                                 130 {
> > > > +                                       # 0x82 Tag
> > > >                                         set size [ReadSize data]
> > > >                                         set tag [GetBytes data $size]
> > > >                                         lappend info(tags) $tag
> > > >                                 }
> > > >                                 146 {
> > > > -                                       # from
> > > > +                                       # 0x92 from
> > > >                                         set size [ReadSize data]
> > > >                                         set offset $data(offset)
> > > >                                         lappend info(authors) 
> > > > [GetMailAuthor data $size]
> > > >                                         set data(offset) [expr {$offset 
> > > > + $size}]
> > > >                                 }
> > > >                                 152 {
> > > > -                                       # unknown
> > > > +                                       # 0x98 unknown
> > > > +                                       #puts "Unknown mail key 152 has 
> > > > value : [GetMultiByte $var]"
> > > >                                         GetMultiByte $var
> > > >                                 }
> > > >                                 162 {
> > > > +                                       # 0xA2 Subject
> > > >                                         set size [ReadSize data]
> > > >                                         set subject [DecodeString 
> > > > [GetBytes data $size]]
> > > >                                         set info(subject) $subject
> > > >                                 }
> > > >                                 170 {
> > > > +                                       # 0xAA Body preview
> > > >                                         set size [ReadSize data]
> > > >                                         set body [DecodeString 
> > > > [GetBytes data $size]]
> > > >                                         set info(body) $body
> > > >                                 }
> > > >                                 178 {
> > > > +                                       # 0xB2 Attachment
> > > >                                         set size [ReadSize data]
> > > >                                         set attachment [DecodeString 
> > > > [GetBytes data $size]]
> > > >                                         lappend info(attachments) 
> > > > $attachment
> > > >                                 }
> > > >                                 184 {
> > > > +                                       # 0xB8 Number of threads
> > > >                                         set info(threads) [GetMultiByte 
> > > > data]
> > > >                                 }
> > > >                                 default {
> > > > @@ -760,6 +792,8 @@
> > > >  
> > > >         }
> > > >  
> > > > +       # For more information on the format and protocol read this 
> > > > article :
> > > > +       # http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/index.php/Gmail
> > > >         proc parseGData { data_bin } {
> > > >                 set data(bin) $data_bin
> > > >                 set data(len) [string length $data_bin]
> > > > @@ -774,12 +808,14 @@
> > > >                         set key [ReadKey data]
> > > >                         switch -- $key {
> > > >                                 10 {
> > > > +                                       # 0x0A New mail Key
> > > >                                         set size [ReadSize data]
> > > >                                         set offset $data(offset)
> > > >                                         lappend info(mails) [GetNewMail 
> > > > data $size]
> > > >                                         set data(offset) [expr {$offset 
> > > > + $size}]
> > > >                                 }
> > > >                                 136 {
> > > > +                                       # 0x88 Number of mails Key
> > > >                                         set info(nb_mails) 
> > > > [GetMultiByte data]
> > > >                                 }
> > > >                                 default {
> > > > 
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