Hello all, A very interesting topic. Around here our record yields are about half of what you are reporting. However, we too can go further I think. Quality is important for returns also though.
I remember seeing research from Holland quite a few years ago, for Holland, which showed little quality change (as measured by soluble solids) when yields of Jonagold went to about 65 metric tons per hectare. From there to 85 metric tons, as yield increased, soluble solids dropped. It would indicate that for that particular system, climate, variety etc., some sort of plateau was being reached. Con Traas The Apple Farm Cahir Ireland. ________________________________ From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Tom Auvil Sent: 21 November 2013 15:07 To: 'Apple-crop discussion list' Subject: Re: [apple-crop] record yields World record yield? Not certain. Do know that the yield benchmarks are moving up in the Northwest. Some growers now manage Gala for an average yield of 100 MT/Ha, and have a target benchmark of 130 MT/Ha. In the 2012 crop many blocks of all different varieties approached the 100 MT/Ha expected yield. At the WSU fruit school in 2008, the standard yield in the economic presentations were 50 MT/Ha with a target of 70 MT/ Ha. The highest sustained yield discussed in the Northwest has been Granny Smith on Mark rootstock at 140 MT/Ha or ~140 bins with 900 pounds of fruit per bin. The rootstock influences the spur density down the limbs, so Mark has been the standard for productivity. The replant tolerant Geneva rootstocks such as G.41, G.935, G.214, G.210, G.30 have the crop density equal to or better than Mark. The discussion of yield is evolving from total yield to yield of fruit with high and consistent consumer acceptance. Highly productive varieties such as Fuji and HoneyCrisp may need to implement rigorous crop load management by counting spurs at pruning, flowers at bloom and fruit in June to cap yields at 80 bins or less, in consistent, full canopy blocks. The goal is to have crisp, juicy, great flavor fruit every bite. Tom and Rose Auvil PO Box 408 Orondo, WA 98843 tau...@nwi.net From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of dbals...@mnsi.net Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:28 PM To: 'Apple-crop discussion list' Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Vineland 1 rootstock Different subject ... does anyone know what the current world record for apple production /acre is . The last record I have ever heard quoted was a7 year old block of Granny smith apples from New Zealand around 130 metric tonne per hectare in the early 1990's.does anyone know where a person might source such info or r what the current record might be ? Thanks Doug Doug and Leslie 519-738-4819 The Fruit Wagon - Quality Fruit and Flowers in Season www.thefruitwagon.com From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [ mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Hugh Thomas Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:19 PM To: Apple-crop discussion list Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Vineland 1 rootstock I've read that V1 is resistant to fire blight. See: http://www.plant.uoguelph.ca/treefruit/outreach/files/PerformanceandAvai labilityoftheVinelandAppleRootstocks-Dec2006.pdf On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Deborah I. Breth <d...@cornell.edu> wrote: Is V1 resistant or susceptible to fire blight? Deborah I. Breth Cornell Cooperative Extension - Lake Ontario Fruit Program Team Leader and IPM Specialist in Tree Fruit and Berries 12690 Rt. 31 Albion, NY 14411 phone: 585.798.4265 x 36 <tel:585.798.4265%20x%2036> mobile: 585.747.6039 fax: 585.798.5191 email: d...@cornell.edu LOF website <http://www.fruit.cornell.edu/lof> From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Huffman, Leslie (OMAFRA) Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:02 AM To: Apple-crop discussion list; Jon Clements Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Vineland 1 rootstock I agree with Jon, V1 definitely has more vigour. Leslie Leslie Huffman 519-738-1256 leslie.huff...@ontario.ca <mailto:519-738-1256leslie.huff...@ontario.ca> From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [ mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Hugh Thomas Sent: October-30-13 2:47 PM To: Jon Clements; Apple-crop discussion list Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Vineland 1 rootstock Thanks Jon, I did order some V1 trees from Cameron yesterday and I'm glad you told me about the spacing, as I was heading for 4 feet. I''ll plant 5x12 and give you a report as the next few seasons go by. Hugh On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Jon Clements <jon.cleme...@umass.edu> wrote: Hugh, see this for a start: http://www.extension.org/pages/60856/apple-rootstock-info:-v1#.UnFOtJRga 9U Several growers here in Massachusetts have planted Honeycrisp (and maybe some other varieties?) on V.1 in recent years. The trees have done very well, however, they are larger than B.9 and M.9. Planting 3-4 feet apart is running into some crowding issues. They have been precocious, but I would plant them 5-6 ft. apart using a vertical axis type training. Trees I believe have come from Cameron Nursery. Jon On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Hugh Thomas <hughthoma...@gmail.com> wrote: In my search for a cold tolerant rootstock, I ran across Vineland 1. Any input on this rootstock from anyone? B9 Honeycrisp trees are hard to find so I'm considering V1. _______________________________________________ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- Jon Clements aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' UMass Cold Spring Orchard 393 Sabin St. Belchertown, MA 01007 413-478-7219 umassfruit.com _______________________________________________ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop _______________________________________________ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3615/6794 - Release Date: 10/30/13
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