arachne-digest Wednesday, April 25 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1528
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:49:41 +0000
From: "J. J. Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Brand-X Browsers
There's a useful list of "obscure" browsers at:
http://www.dantobias.com/webtips/brand-x.html
While there, check out:
http://www.dantobias.com/cgi-bin/browser.pl
- -- it shouldn't take many visits for `rachne to score
higher than M$IE3 in the logs. She's already on a par
with IE6.
BTW Curtis, for this mail I pasted in URLs by first
A adding them to the Hotlist, F2 saving mail in mid
composition, H opening Hotlist, right-click or Shift
+ Enter to hilite URL, Ctrl+C to copy, back to mail and
Ctrl+V to paste. Clumsy, but it works. I use the Hotlist
as a temporary marshalling yard for links, with several
properly organized lists saved for various porpoises.
Regards,
Jake
- -- Written by a user of Arachne: the Internet Survival Kit
- -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:48:48 +0100
From: "Joerg Dietze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: more Ghostscript stuff - PDF support
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Hi folks,
since many list members are interested and the zip file is only 4kB I
decided to post it on the list, You'll find it in the attachment. The
archive does not include Ghostscript and unfortunately I forgot the site
where it can be found, but if someone need it I could send the original
self extracting archive (warning: 2.6 MB, including fonts). Have a look
at the included readme file, too.
Have fun.
Regards Joerg
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:51:30 +0100
From: "Joerg Dietze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A whole *new* bug!!
Hi Glen,
perfect!!!! Thanks a lot!!!!!
Regards Joerg
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:13:22 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
> I would have to agree with that assumption. ;-)
> Why your "correct IP" is not shown baffles me. :(
> I'll try dialing, connecting, signing-on, loading epppd
> all outside of Arachne. And then start Arachne with "Connection @READY"
> and "IP_address BOOTP"
> (brb)
> OK, same problem.
> (shows 0.0.0.0 as local IP)
> Here's how I fixed it. ;-)
> http://www.netins.net/dialup/tools/my_ip.shtml
> (There's my current IP address)
> Several others that will do it:
> http://ip.sbbs.net/
> http://www.tritechsolutions.com/cgi-local/ipaddresscheck
> http://www.chamisplace.com/asp/info.asp?f=ip
> http://www.majornet.com/tech/showip.php (shows other kewl info)<g>
> http://www.showmyip.com/ (shows the same additional info but is faster)
> Many others are also available.
> Go to http://www.google.com/ and search for "current ip address"
> - (include the quotation marks)
> --
> Glenn
> http://arachne.cz/
> http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/
> http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
> http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm
- -- Arachne V1.70, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:38:00 +0200
From: florianx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: more Ghostscript stuff - PDF support
Hi!
For Ghostscript look at ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/ghost/aladdin/
If somebody has DJGPP and would compile the last Ghostscript, he is wellcome ;))))
Bye, flox
.:| Club Dr-DOS - the unofficial Lineo Dr-DOS page - http://www.drdos.org
.:| http://www.seal.de.vu - SEAL is one of the official FreeDOS GUI projects
.:| "Ob es besser wird, wenn es anders wird, weiß ich nicht, dass es aber
.:| anders werden muss, wenn es besser werden soll, weiß ich." Lichtenberg
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:53:48 +0100
From: "Joerg Dietze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ghostscript 5.10
Hi folks,
here is the link for Ghostscript 5.10 (AFAIK the last executable for
DOS, 386 or above processor requiered):
http://www.vobis.de/bbs/firmen/pconline/dos
- -- Arachne V1.70, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:35:19 +0200
From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP scripts? (was: A whole *new* bug!!)
Christof wrote:
>what about Michael? Is he alive? He certainly has reasons and
>more important things to do... But it may be even possible that:
>
>- he has been drawn to the army
>- he has got lost in the Linux jungle
>- he has been hijacked or bought by B.G.
AFAIK he's alive and well. He logs in often at arachne.cz so I assume he
isn't in the army. And about M$, I quote from the release notes from 1.0
beta 5 (16 february 1997):
"Microsoft offered me to move to Redmond and work for them - really, I am
not joking ;)"
>If 1.70r3 turns out to be definetely last version of Arachne
>I will probably return to 1.66 and use it until the end of my
>life (probably get registered first ). But it would be a pity. I
>have already got used to CSS support and highly apreciate style
>sheets as an effective tool for page design.
Even if Michael stops, at this point, to develop it I still think
development will continue. Michael has stated that he will probably release
it as GPL when he feels it's time to do so. And if he looses the source
atleast 1.69 can be recreated.
>Would it be possible to send more than one file by one "mouseclick".
One way would be to have several fields for files.
>When I want to download mail from different servers, I just put the
>server names and passowrds into one script file getmail.asf. Would
>something similar be possible with Arachne's ftp command?
I think so, but I'll leave the answering to Glenn or Clarence ;-)
Personally I think Arachnes FTP is really bad, especially when you want to
download. I prefer the text-mode clients more myself.
>As I do not know how to write such a sendftp.asf I tried out
>various external ftp DOS clients. The ftp client on the Arachne
>download page is bug-free, but does not allow to run scripts.
I think this works:
ftp < input.txt
But I haven't tried it.
//Bernie
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 14:04:46 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ghostscript 5.10
Hello Joerg:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:53:48 +0100, Joerg Dietze wrote:
> Hi folks,
> here is the link for Ghostscript 5.10 (AFAIK the last executable for
> DOS, 386 or above processor requiered):
> http://www.vobis.de/bbs/firmen/pconline/dos
> -- Arachne V1.70, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/
I downloaded it and unpacked it and located it in my search path.
Also I modified MIME.CFG as you have indicated. I did also
everything else as explained in your README.
It doesn't work for me. I get an error message that briefly flashes
in my screen saying that Alladin can't find some init file, gs_std
something. The error message appears too briefly for me to read it all
or to make any sense out of it.
I find an HTM file in C:\TEMP\ARACHNE.TMP having nothing more than this:
<html>
<head>
<title>Conversion from PDF file</title>
<body>
</body>
</html>
Do you have any idea as to what might be going wrong?
Regards,
Sam Heywood
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:04:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gregor J Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP scripts? (was: A whole *new* bug!!)
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Christof Lange wrote:
...
| As I do not know how to write such a sendftp.asf I tried
| out various external ftp DOS clients. The ftp client on the
| Arachne download page is bug-free, but does not allow to
| run scripts. The 1993 program ftp 0.70 supports scripts,
| but gets a socket error (whatever that me be) after each
| single operation. In the end I discovered a later version
| of ftp 0.70. It seems to be identical - besides the fact
| that it has double size and a different screen colour.
| That one works - but when I want to close connection and
| leave the program I have to wait for time out. But that is
| still more practicable than the Arachne internal single
| file method.
I believe that FTP is part of CUTCP (Clarkson University TCP
package. There is a way of doing scripts. I once spent a whole
evening searching for the documention. It's here somewhere
amongst a pile of diskettes. Write to me if you want me to hunt
for it.
| Any ideas? Or is there a 'perfect' ftp client for DOS?
I always like the one written by Erick Engelke (who actually
wrote the DOS WATTCP library, used by Arachne). He just released
a new build:
ftp://dark.uwaterloo.ca
Look for ftp.exe.
Other listers might like to know that Erick also released a dos
webserver. Find it at the same site.
- --
Gregor J Jones mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boston MA
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:06:29 -0500
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A whole *new* bug!!
Glenn, et alia ...
Arachne works just fine. It shows the Local IP. The "Local IP" is
different from the "Internet IP."
If you are dialing up, you don't *have* a Local IP! Only those on
network, or NIC for other purposes like the cable modem setup I run,
have a LOCAL IP.
You can take a look at the difference between Local IP & internet IP if
you'd like ... I put up a couple of screen shots that show both:
http://www.b-for.org/downloads/ip1.jpg
http://www.b-for.org/downloads/ip2.jpg
l.d.
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:13:22 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 02:02:38 -0700, Joerg Dietze wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:16:49 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
>> <snip>
>>>> BTW, isn't that number on the bottom right YOUR IP # ?
>>> Yep, That's the current IP for each user.
>>> Very nice feature.
>>> Thank you Michael. :)
>> I don't believe that my IP is 0.0.0.0 :-).
> I would have to agree with that assumption. ;-)
> Why your "correct IP" is not shown baffles me. :(
> I'll try dialing, connecting, signing-on, loading epppd
> all outside of Arachne. And then start Arachne with "Connection @READY"
> and "IP_address BOOTP"
> (brb)
> OK, same problem.
> (shows 0.0.0.0 as local IP)
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:51:00 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP scripts? (was: A whole *new* bug!!)
Hi Gregor:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:04:33 -0400 (EDT), Gregor J Jones wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Christof Lange wrote:
<snip>
> I believe that FTP is part of CUTCP (Clarkson University TCP
> package. There is a way of doing scripts. I once spent a whole
> evening searching for the documention. It's here somewhere
> amongst a pile of diskettes. Write to me if you want me to hunt
> for it.
I also tried to figure out how to do FTP with CUTCP. I could not
find any documentation for FTP. The Telnet feature works fine.
If you have any documentation on how to do FTP with it, then please
send it to me or refer me to a URL.
> I always like the one written by Erick Engelke (who actually
> wrote the DOS WATTCP library, used by Arachne). He just released
> a new build:
<snip>
> Other listers might like to know that Erick also released a dos
> webserver. Find it at the same site.
I downloaded the webserver program. It looks very interesting, but the
documentation is very sparse and highly lacking in explanations. I have
no idea how to configure it. Has anybody on this list been able to run
this program?
Regards,
Sam Heywood
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:19:44 -0500
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Program Terminating
... or Terminating Program.
Has anyone else ever gotten this message [on the bottom line] when using
Arachne? I can't recall anything like that prior to v1.70r3 ...
It has happened numerous times under different circumstances, and I've
never been able to figure out what triggered it.
Today I found at least one trigger, and it makes no sense whatsoever.
I was writing mail, wanted to refer to a URL that was mentioned down at
the bottom of the message, so went to the bottom, used K-commands to
highlight, then went back to top where I was working and used K-C to
insert the URL.
The URL was highlighted, and when I tried to move the cursor to it to
UNhighlight, I discovered everything was locked up ... and on the bottom
line was the message Terminating Program.
3-finger salute was required.
Why did it do this???
l.d.
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:33:27 -0500
From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Alternative Telnet Clients for DOS
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 02:24:43 -0400 (EDT), Thomas Mueller wrote:
> I saw some BBS lists around the beginning of 1998, more than half the entries
> were no good (not BBSes).
Check an up-to-date list. Here's one that lists over 500 BBS's
that can be reached via telnet. It appears that the demise of
BBS's is overstated. This list is updated monthly and more BBS's
are being added all the time.
http://www.thedirectory.org/telnet
also check Sam Heywood's suggestion:
http://www.usbbs.org
Sam Ewalt
Croswell, Michigan, USA
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:12:08 +0100
From: "Joerg Dietze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PDF support - 1st bugfix
* This message is in MIME format.
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Hi folks,
here is first bugfix for Arachne pdf support.
Regards Joerg
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:28:00 +0100
From: "Joerg Dietze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ghostscript 5.10
Hi Sam and all,
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 14:04:46 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
> I downloaded it and unpacked it and located it in my search path.
> Also I modified MIME.CFG as you have indicated. I did also
> everything else as explained in your README.
> It doesn't work for me. I get an error message that briefly flashes
> in my screen saying that Alladin can't find some init file, gs_std
> something. The error message appears too briefly for me to read it all
> or to make any sense out of it.
this seems to be a problem with Ghostscript. Perhaps You should isert an
"pause" statement into pdf2htm.bat after the line invoking GS that You
can read the error message.
> I find an HTM file in C:\TEMP\ARACHNE.TMP having nothing more than this:
> <html>
> <head>
> <title>Conversion from PDF file</title>
> <body>
> </body>
> </html>
> Do you have any idea as to what might be going wrong?
yes, I found the problem, there was something wrong with the path
statements. If htmlgen.exe doesn't find any files it creates an empty html file.
I'm thinking about inserting an error message into the created htm file
when this happens.
I hope this is fixed with the new version I'll post with next mail upload.
> Regards,
> Sam Heywood
- -- Arachne V1.70, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:05:24 -0500
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP scripts? (was: A whole *new* bug!!)
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:27:12, Christof Lange wrote:
> Glenn & list,
> what about Michael? Is he alive? He certainly has reasons and
> more important things to do... But it may be even possible that:
> - he has been drawn to the army
> - he has got lost in the Linux jungle
> - he has been hijacked or bought by B.G.
According to a news article uploaded April 20th, but dated 24 dubna,
Michael is apparently involved with Linux Bazaar 2001 ... whatever that
is.
The message would imply that Michael was still alive, and not drafted or
bought, just a couple of days ago.
l.d.
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:43:23 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: more Ghostscript stuff - PDF support
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:13:43 +0100, Joerg Dietze wrote:
> Hi folks,
> I played around a little bit with Ghostscript 5.10 and created a basic
> PDF support for Arachne. Pages from pdf file will be converted to bmp
> images and these will be refered to in a small html file rendered by
> Arachne. If someone wants to try feel free to mail.
Yes, please do tell us how to do it.
Adding these 2 lines to mime.cfg converts PDF to plain text.(no graphics)
application/pdf >TXT|@c:\\xpdfdos\\pdftotex.exe -q $1 $2
file/.pdf >TXT|@c:\\xpdfdos\\pdftotex.exe -q $1 $2
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Glenn
http://arachne.cz/
http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/
http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:43:06 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ghostscript 5.10
Hello Joerg:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:28:00 +0100, Joerg Dietze wrote:
> Hi Sam and all,
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 14:04:46 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
>> I downloaded it and unpacked it and located it in my search path.
>> Also I modified MIME.CFG as you have indicated. I did also
>> everything else as explained in your README.
>> It doesn't work for me. I get an error message that briefly flashes
>> in my screen saying that Alladin can't find some init file, gs_std
>> something. The error message appears too briefly for me to read it all
>> or to make any sense out of it.
> this seems to be a problem with Ghostscript. Perhaps You should isert an
> "pause" statement into pdf2htm.bat after the line invoking GS that You
> can read the error message.
> yes, I found the problem, there was something wrong with the path
> statements. If htmlgen.exe doesn't find any files it creates an empty html
file.
> I'm thinking about inserting an error message into the created htm file
> when this happens.
> I hope this is fixed with the new version I'll post with next mail upload.
Still no fix.
Please see pause statements in PDF2htm.bat and output from print screen:
- --- begin pdf2htm.bat ---
@echo off
del gsmustdo
pause > nul
del \arachne\cache\page*.bmp
pause > nul
argh %1
pause > nul
gs386 @gsmustdo
pause > nul
htmlgen >%2
- ---- end pdf2htm.bat ------
- ---- begin screenshot of output -----
C:\PDF>pdf2htm wlhs60.pdf
File not found
DOS/4GW Protected Mode Run-time Version 1.97
Copyright (c) Rational Systems, Inc. 1990-1994
Aladdin Ghostscript 5.10 (1997-11-23)
Copyright (C) 1997 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA. All rights reserved.
This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details.
Processing pages 1 through 2.
Page 1
Error: /undefined in [/ICCBased {74 0 resolveR}]
Operand stack:
Execution stack:
%interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-
- - 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- 2 3 %oparray_pop --nostringval--
--nostringval-- false 1 %stopped_push 1 3 %oparray_pop --nostri
ngval-- 2 1 2 --nostringval-- %for_pos_int_continue --nostringval--
--nostringval-- --nostringval-- 0 --nostringval-- %array_continue --
nostringval-- false 1 %stopped_push --nostringval-- %loop_continue -
- -nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 5 9 %oparray_pop
Dictionary stack:
--dict:773/809-- --dict:0/20-- --dict:47/200-- --dict:47/200-- --dict
:120/127-- --dict:111/152-- --dict:10/10-- --dict:1/2-- --dict:13/20--
Current allocation mode is local
Invalid drive specified
C:\PDF>
- ------- end screenshot of output ----
If I run this by clicking on a PDF attachment found in an Arachne email
message, I will get an empty HTML file as before. Furthermore, I will
get error messages saying that it can't find the files it needs, even if
I include C:\PDF in the search path. I have made sure that all the files
it needs and asks for are there.
Maybe you should make prepare a list to indicate which files should go
in which directories. You might need to make some changes in your source
to take care of the problem of the "invalid drive specified". With my
setup I can run Arachme from either C:\ARACHNE or I can run her from my
ramdrive in D:\ARACHNE. If I don't know which files belong in which drives
and directories, then I cannot use this program.
Regards,
Sam Heywood
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