On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Girard wrote:

> Why not look at the statistics? Here are some :
> Percent of households with a handgun:
> United States   29%
> United Kingdom   1
> 
> Murders committed with handguns annually:
> United States   8,915
> United Kingdom      7
> 
> Murder rate (per 100,000 people):
> United States   8.40
> United Kingdom  1.97
> 
> Who needs long dissertations to prove that guns kill? 

Nothing is proved.  This is post-hoc ergo propter-hoc.

Culture is a key variable here.  Given the culture, the freedom to defend
oneself may well be correlated with lower crime rates.  Vermont in the US
has the most liberty in self-defense and low crime rates relative to other
states.

Fred Foldvary  

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