hi!
i don't knoiw what's mr. chan mahanta's age nor the man's age who identifies himself with the the id "bartta bistar"...but from whatever i have known so far from being a member of this group is that our ideas, rather ideology, don't match. guess, mr. chan mahanta is way too ollder than me with much more knowledge than me. maybe he has his own conviction of supporting ULFA, no matter how subtlely he does it....as for mr bartta bistar i am convinced he's a hardcore ulfa cadre.....but he fail to realise that the assam of yesterday when ULFA was formed is not the same as today's assam. whatever maybe the reason for ULFA to take its present shape at that point of time, it doesnt hold water anymore.
my generation gives a damn about ULFA. i personally hate ULFA. and i dont think they are our representatives, no matter what they think of themselves. they are a bloody bunch of loosers.
when they talk about the real concerns of the assamese people they forget that the main causes are the bloddy violence they indulge into and the threat of bangladeshis ( oh! how could they?? they do have business interests in our neighbouring country. dont they?) the threat to assam is not "india" but ULFA and the illegal migrants.
now dont get surprised or shocked ( which i am sure u ppl wont be coz u know the ground realities...the majority hates ULFA.....and its a overwhelming number..) for its the fact- the generations have changed. i dont know what was it like when u guys formed this group..but i can very well say that the present day assam is far better than what it will be ( if if really happens) under the control of ULFA. at the same time lemme point it out, todays assam could have been far better had there been no ULFA. its only because of ULFA that we are lagging behind the rest of the country. and its a brutal fact....nay, its a tragic fact. whatever assam is today is despite of ULFA...
anyway, let ULFA go to hell. let those guys who dreamt of rulling assam ( as dictators) continue dreaming so...................but assam will remain an integral part of india. why? because our generation wishes so. and so does the generation next to ours. dont believe me?? chk out with anyone.
as for the talks....i hope it succeeds in bringing the ULFA leaders into the mainstream with some grace...some izzat......atleast they will be able to die in their motherland but ofcourse not by bullets i pray.......guess it hurts to know that one might die a fugitive living in some foreign country or in the jungles....as fo rthe PCG, its just that its a motley group suppoting the outdated ideologies of ULFA.
regards,
tridip
p.s:- it really doesnt need a rocket scientist, to figure it out that the support of ULFA is dwindling and it will soon be without any recruitsti fill up the efficiences.
Rajib Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Rajib Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Some OTHER observations:
When a newspaper claims the ULFA is not ASSAM, anyone
still wearing shorts would agree. This editorial
accepts the ULFA has support - all it says is that it
DOES NOT have the support of ALL of Assam. It really
does not take a rocket scientist to figure that out or
a rocket scientist to accept it.
The editorial also states that ALL the PCG got was a
few thousand responses. Few thousand for 27 million
means not just that there are significant number that
DO NOT support ULFA. As it says, a few thousand is not
even a representative sample. Statisticians all over
the world would agree. Those claiming these
journalists are fools because of this assertion would
perhaps be exposing their foolishness.
The editorial claims the PCG is ULFA's representative
- was selected by them for putting across their
agenda. The editorial does not express dismay at that
fact - all it says is that the PCG is a tool of the
ULFA - no more. It is NOT representative of the
people. Once again, it does not take a rocket
scientist to figure that out.
Finally, CM's words such as "people who are perfectly
willing to die for a cause..." sound tired and blathe.
The only dying we have seen for a long time is that of
innocent civilians who became dummies in a sad and
pathetic display of supposed might of the liberating
brothers.
CM's "willing to die" sounds very much like Osama Bin
Laden's assertions with one important factor missing.
The ULFA's rah rah over sovereignity would really be
of no concern to the PM, really. Why? Not because he
is the servant to the constitution. But because there
aren't just enough people to give him grief over it -
inside Assam, in its neighbourhood or around the
world.
Actually that is why he asserts the primacy of the
Indian constitution. He does not give a damn about the
ULFA leadership - he is concerned with what the
citizens (including that of Assam) will think.
In that process, he is being smart. Never mind the
fact that CM is smarting from the PM going against his
wishes.
--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Some observations:
>
> >It is representative of Ulfa, not of the people of
> Assam.
>
> *** That is a big assertion. Obviously the
> Statesman expects everyone to accept its verdict,
> because it says so. But is it even a remotely
> credible assertion? Could ULFA operate for all
> these years, without a sizable segment of the
> population either supporting it directly, or
> helping it with sympathy? It does not take a
> rocket engineer to figure out the answer.
>
> *** It is astounding to see editorial after
> editorial, columnist after columnist of the
> Indian English language media, displaying a
> surreal expectation that the PCG, selected by the
> ULFA to represent it, would be composed of people
> who are not sympathetic to its cause.
>
>
> >-- what the group wants today: a far cry from
> >its heady founding >days in 1979 >in Sibsagar--.
>
> *** The recurring need for a segment of the
> Indian press and a number of its 'intellectuals'
> to taunt ULFA for agreeing to negotiations, which
> incidentally was refused by the Center for all
> these years, speaks volumes of the quality of
> journalism and the professionalism of the
> journalists. It is quite obvious that they are
> more interested in asserting their own
> righteousness than real concern for the people of
> Assam.
>
>
> >Many have died in Assam, not only in fake
> >encounters organised by security >forces but
> >also in direct clashes between Government forces
> >and Ulfa, as well >as in disappearances caused
> >by security forces which have taken away men
> >and >women from villages in the name of security
> >and questioning; and many have >fallen prey to
> >Ulfas bullets, its intimidation and
> >extortionist ways.
>
>
>
>
> *** While it is refreshing to see an
> acknowledgement of the Govts' misdeeds, the
> inability or unwillingness of the the Indian
> press to examine what it means is nothing less
> than a disgrace:
>
> It means:
>
> A: Indian democracy failed to take note of the
> disaffections
> that led to insurgency. Indian policies and its
> executors are
> RESPONSIBLE for creating ULFA.
>
> B: Once insurgency broke out, Indian
> democracy could not muster the wits
> to deal with it like a functional democracy could
> be expected to.
> It never did a damn thing to address the CAUSES of
> the disaffections
> and the insurgency. And since then it has always
> reacted as little
> more than a tin-pot dictatorship from some
> banana-republic,
> relying on brute military force to beat the people
> into submission
> with a complete disregard for the rule of its own
> laws. And where
> is the accountability, while the watchdogs of
> democracy, the Press,
> acting like a lapdog, eating out of the hands of
> MHA and RAW ?
>
> C: This the kind of governance, one of
> dysfunctional democracy,
> that the Statesman exhorts the people of Assam to
> rely on?
>
>
> >But we support the idea of democracy, open
> >governance, "One nation, may >peoples".
>
> *** Noble as the sentiments might be, it really
> is little more than pithy platitude, in view of
> the above.
>
>
> >"I am willing to listen to whatever concerns
> >that you have. I am a servant of >the
> >Constitution and you should recognise the
> >complexity of our polity."
>
> *** Beautifully put? Perhaps--if beauty is in the
> blather that is. While one might be perfectly
> willing to give the PM every chance, and a
> benefit of the doubt to make good on his
> expressed intents, his penchant for meaningless
> pronouncements is appalling and the Press'
> proclivity for going rah-rah over it even more so.
>
> It is quite immaterial for those who were
> perfectly willing to die for a cause. and for
> those who provided the support for it, whether
> the PM is servant to the Constitution: a
> constitution whose sanctity is little more than
> the purity of the waters of the Ganga, thanks to
> decades of dysfunctional Indian governance ,its
> complete inability to uphold the rule of law and
> its deliberate destruction of the original intent
> and purpose to guide a federal democratic union.
>
> cm
>
>
>
> >PM roadmap for peace
> >
>
>http://www.thestatesman.net/page.news.php?clid=14&theme=&usrsess=1&id=94488
> >
> >The Prime Minister, his right arm in a sling (he
> >was recovering from a minor operation on the
> >hand), greeted the 11-member group which had
> >come from Assam to talk to him on the demands of
> >the United Liberation Front of Asom, which
> >claims that its main goal is sovereignty for the
> >state. That the process had gotten this far was
> >significant itself the small group, which
> >calls itself the Peoples Consultative Group,
> >has been set up by Ulfa. It is representative of
> >Ulfa, not of the people of Assam.
> >While we may debate on the level of support for
> >the organisation in the rural areas of the state
> > and there is no doubt that it does indeed
> >exist there is little question of the
> >groundswell of disappointment, unhappiness and
> >confusion about what the group wants today: a
> >far cry from its heady founding days in 1979 in
> >Sibsagar, when it spoke in a mix of nationalism
> >and Leftism about the need to break away from
> >the shackles of Indias economic and political
> >colonial structures.
> >The world has changed since then; so has the
> >North-east and India; so has Assam.
> >Many have died in Assam, not only in fake
> >encounters organised by security forces but also
> >in direct clashes between Government forces and
> >Ulfa, as well as in disappearances caused by
> >security forces which have taken away men and
> >women from villages in the name of security and
> >questioning; and many have fallen prey to Ulfas
> >bullets, its intimidation and extortionist ways.
> >Today, a number of Ulfa "people" men, women
> >and children languish in jails in Assam not
> >quite forgotten but those who were captured from
> >Ulfa camps in Bhutanese territory in the
> >December 2003 All Clear Operation launched by
> >the Royal Bhutanese Army.
> >The tiny army smashed the organisation in the
> >Himalayan kingdom where it had set up base for
> >years, with the National Liberation Front of
> >Bodoland and the Kamatapur Liberation
> >Organization, and has forced it whether it
> >acknowledges the fact or not to rethink its
> >future and the strategy.
> >*****
> >Indira Raisom Goswami, better known as Mamoni
> >Baideau affectionately in Assam, had her first
> >meeting with Ulfa in 1993. It later took her to
> >a camp in Nalbari where she was impressed with
> >the way it was trying to organise people into
> >road building and other economic activities. She
> >had been troubled by Ulfas killing of a
> >childhood friend Manabendra Sarma, the trade
> >unionist, and Girish Goswami, a bank officer who
> >happened to be her cousin in a bank robbery, in
> >those early days. But being a writer and person
> >with rich experiences of India and the world,
> >being of an open mind, she kept meeting them to
> >hear their viewpoints.
> >I do not know if she is still convinced by
> >Ulfas defence of those murders. But over the
> >past years, she has been in touch with Ulfa and
> >more specifically Paresh Baruah, the commander
> >in chief of the army. And she is deeply
> >concerned by what she saw as the human tragedy
> >caused by the Indian security presence, the
> >poverty in the villages of Assam and by what she
> >calls the human hurt among families caused by
> >the Bhutan operation. Of course, one cannot
> >forget the hurt and bitterness caused by
> >militant killings of those who did not agree
>
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