*** First off, they are not problem statements. They are descriptions of
SYMPTOMS, arising out of certain PROBLEMS which would require fixing to make
Assam the state of your ideals.
Therefore, you all still need to find what the PROBLEMs are, and how your
solution concept does or is expected to address the problems.
I am glad that CM
has decided to walk to the platform.
Let us put some structure into the
debate, so that it does not end up in smoke.
Normally when a patient goes
to a Doctor, all the patient tells him are the symptoms, and based on the symptoms, the Doctor prescribes
him some medicine.
To clarify the matter take the
following case. If one has
Cancer, we donot wait to find out how and why one has cancer. Our immediate duty
is to treat the patient.
Now, it is at least good that we
seem to have agreed (more or less) on the symptoms of the problems.
Now we have without
explaining the causes of the dieses, two Doctors have prescribed two
different medicines;
(1) Mahanta-ULFA group (say) has
prescribed that Assam should become a sovereign country outside India, and all
our symptoms will be cured.
(2) Mayur group (say)
has prescribed that more pragmatic solution which is basically
"a federal
structure with centre retaining defense, finance and
external affairs and rest of the powers at state level can
solve some problems afflicting all the states of the country.
Of course it would be unwise to expect miracles overnight from such an
arrangement.
Now the most rational thing will be
to hear both sides why they think his solution will solve the 3 main problems
(sorry the symptoms) facing Assam.
To refresh, the symptoms are
1) The North East India is under
developed compared to the rest of the country and compared to its natural
resources. Within the North East, Assam is even lagging behind in development
compared to the other states in the North East.
2) Compared to the rest of the
country, the Assam has the problem of heaviest infiltration of illegal
immigration which has been going one since 1930s.
3) Compared to the rest of the
country, North East has the highest level of Corruption. Assam may be the
worst.
Now both sides will have to
participate and put forward their arguments what they think are the real
problems for the above symptoms, and why they think their
suggested prescription will solve the problems.
I think the debate will be so huge,
we should take one issue at a time to be argued by both sides.
Please remember, each side will
have to show how they are going to execute the prescription and how it will
solve the issue of
(1) Underdevelopment
(2) Illegal immigration and
(3) Corruption.
Shall we start and show our
sincerity.
RB
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 8:31
AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Begalis and
MIT
Hi Mayur:
You took the easy road of following Rajen. I was hoping you would do a
whole lot better. But as long as you did, and assuming that is the best we
have to go with for the moment, let us look at Rajen's, and now yours too,
problem statement:
1) The North East India is under
developed compared to the rest of the country and compared to its natural
resources. Within the North East, Assam is even lagging behind in development
compared to the other states in the North East.
2) Compared to the rest of the
country, the Assam has the problem of heaviest infiltration of illegal
immigration which has been going one since 1930s.
3) Compared to the rest of the
country, North East has the highest level of Corruption. Assam may be the
worst.
*** First off, they are not problem statements. They are descriptions of
SYMPTOMS, arising out of certain PROBLEMS which would require fixing to make
Assam the state of your ideals.
Therefore, you all still need to find what the PROBLEMs are, and how your
solution concept does or is expected to address the problems.
You can take one issue at a time. And take your time. I will be looking
forward to learning a whole lot.
Best.
cm
At 5:33 AM -0800 11/21/05, mayur bora wrote:
Mahanta-da, by and large I agree with
Rajen-da's list
of problems plaguing
Assam.
Mayur
--- Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Let me try to help:
> We have these problems, in
summary:
> 1) The North East India is under developed compared
>
to the rest of the country and compared to its
> natural resources.
Within the North East, Assam is
> even lagging behind in development
compared to the
> other states in the North East.
> 2) Compared
to the rest of the country, the Assam
> has the problem of heaviest
infiltration of illegal
> immigration which has been going one since
1930s.
> 3) Compared to the rest of the country, North East
>
has the highest level of Corruption. Assam may be
> the worst.
>
4) Among the North East, Nagaland has the problem of
> insurgency
since after 1947 and which is still going
> on. The reason of
insurgency in Nagaland is pure
> and simple. They want
independence from India as
> their right.
> Assam also joined
this insurgency 40 years after
> independence in 1979.
>
The reason of insurgency in Assam are the 1, 2 & 3
>
above.
> Assam has many other problems but the above are the
>
main.
> Meghalaya is the only state whic is free from any
>
insurgency so far and seem to be happily tagging
> along
India.
> So is Mizoram at present.
> RB
>
.
> ----- Original Message
-----
> From: mc mahant
> To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc:
assam@assamnet.org
> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 7:22
PM
> Subject: Re: [Assam] Begalis and
MIT
>
>
> The Problem Statement is not yet
forthcoming from
> anybody!!
>
>
mm
>
>
>
>
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
From: Chan Mahanta
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: mayur
bora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>
assam@assamnet.org
> Subject: Re:
[Assam] Begalis and MIT
> Date: Sun, 20
Nov 2005 12:20:10 -0600
> >Hi
Mayur:
> >
>
>Thanks for the reply.
>
>
> >You gave your idea of a solution
here, but WHAT
> is the problem?
>
>
> >Unless you tell us what you see as
the
> problems, how can anyone weigh
>
>if your solution concept addresses them?
>
>
> >The reason I am asking is that your
solution
> concept really did not
>
>address anything of any significance at all.
> But I am willing
to
> >accept that your concept of what the
problems
> are is different from
>
>mine. Therefore it is important to have a
> glimpse of your
version,
> >wouldn't you agree? And once we
do, we could
> weigh if your analysis
>
>is sound, to be persuaded to it or reject
it.
> >
>
> > >You will also make a very good politician.
> > >You
know how to engineer a reply by tempting
>
people.
> >
>
>*** Even though you present it as a sly and
> deceitful quality,
an
> >ability to communicate and find
common ground
> to solve common
>
>problems ought NOT to be
>
>treated like you are doing. That is an
> unfortunate attitude, no
doubt
> >born of the pervasive
desi-condition in which
> politicians
remain
> >forever unaccountable, leaving
even otherwise
> intelligent folks,
like
> >yourself, with a sense of abject
resignation.
>
>
> >But it CAN be changed you know? May
not be in
> India in the
>
>foreseeable future. But an Assam, freed from
> the shackles of
the
> >dysfunctional Indian system has
every
> opportunity to be rid of
it.
> >
>
>cm
> >
>
>
> >
>
>
> >
>
>
> >
>
>At 8:39 AM -0800 11/20/05, mayur bora
wrote:
> > >Dear Mahanta
da
> > >
>
> >You are not only an intelligent thinker and
>
political
> > >analyst. You will also
make a very good
> politician.
> >
>You know how to engineer a reply by tempting
>
people.
> > >Of course I have taken it
at the right
> spirit. Thank
> >
>you for your kind words.
> >
>
> > >On a serious note, can any one
be happy with
> dry bread
> > >?
But more importantly, in absence of any
> workable
and
> > >realistic solution, is it not
in the larger
> interst of
> >
>the people to enjoy dry bread in stead of
> longing
for
> > >roast meat which is going to
create havoc in
> many
> >
>people's lives ? I leave it to you to reflect
>
and
> > >ponder over ihe
issue.
> >
>
> > >Personally I feel a federal
structure with
> centre
> >
>retaining defence, finance and external
> affairs
and
> > >rest of the powers at
state lavel can solve
> some
> >
>problems afflicting all the states of the
> country.
Of
> > >course it would be unwise to
expect miracles
> overnight
> >
>from such an arrangement. Moreover,
>
asymmetrical
> > >federalism should not
be a sacrilegious
> concept
> >
>keeping in mind the different background of
> the
states
> > >before coming together
during independence.
> But if
> >
>this arrangement can not improve the
> condition
after
> > >say 10/20 years, all options
should be made
> open viz,
> >
>reverting back to the earlier position,
> status quo
or
> > >a more radical arrangement. But
it should be
> decided
> > >by
people after a prolonged and unrestricted
>
debate.
> > >Any well meaning and
workable concept should
> be
> >
>allowed to be tested before coming to any
>
firm
> >
>conclusion.
> >
>
> > >I am not sure in today's
complex world, slow
> and
> >
>steady wins the race or not, but it is safer
> for
the
> > >people. I don't want speed at
cost of own
> people's
> >
>blood.
> >
>
> > >Take
care.
> >
>
> >
>Mayur
> >
>
> > >--- Chan Mahanta
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > >> At 7:34 PM
-0800 11/18/05, mayur bora
> wrote:
>
> >> >**** I don't like to give all my secrets
> out
to the
> > >> >>
clueless,who are
> > >>
>> so intentionally or
otherwise
> > >>
>
> > >> >HA HA
HA....
> > >>
>
> > >> >DRY BREAD AT
HOME IS BETTER THAN ROAST
> MEAT
ABROAD.
> > >>
>
> > >>
>Mayur
> >
>>
> >
>>
> > >> **** Hi
Mayur:
> > >>
>
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