Chris,
I’m sure I missed something. If I have belittled you in any way
I apologise.
If somebody else has done so either here or on the gfa forum
can you provide some context?
Many thanks
Sean
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[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Christopher
McDonnell
Sent: Monday, 3 August 2015 8:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] New MOSP 3 250hr max Form 2 life
Well I got belittled Sean just because I am not very proficient with a PC. Once
was enough thanks.
From: Sean Jorgensen-Day <mailto:sean.jorgensen...@bigpond.com>
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:22 PM
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] New MOSP 3 250hr max Form 2 life
Mike,
As it happens CAD has responded on the gfaforum :- there is no
extra requirement for a Form 2 pack – so hence no extra cost.
The gfaforum has proved very successful in extracting an answer
from the GFA. The answer was informative and did not come with any
“rebuttal/belittlement/denigration of the originator. “
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[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt
Sent: Monday, 3 August 2015 8:19 AM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] New MOSP 3 250hr max Form 2 life
It is pretty obviously just another way of raising money. If the high use
gliders are getting 100 hour/3 month inspections there is obviously no safety
issue here. GFA just wants to charge for another Form 2 pack.
It is just like the brilliant tug pilot tax. Forcing tug pilots to belong to
GFA is just another dumb move. The claim CASA didn't want to worry about tow
ratings doesn't ring true. They still need to issue them for banner towing.
Simplifying the tow rating or eliminating it by just
requiring a proper briefing might actually help the sport.
I've had lots of launches behind pilots who weren't GFA members. At Beverley in
the 1970s Dave Woodward organised not just a towplane but a standby one that
could be called on complete with pilot. There have been times at contests when
ag planes complete with pilots
have been hired. Forcing GFA membership on the pilots will in many cases either
result in the pilots saying "screw that!" when required to join the GFA or the
club/contest organisers will have to buy a membership for each. Hence the
"tax".
Unfortunately there is nothing that anyone can do about either as the GFA Board
own the organisation and aren't subject to either adult supervision or the
discipline of elections by the "members".
As for the GFA chat forum, why would anyone bother? Anything regarded as
controversial by the Board will not see the light of day or if it does come
complete with rebuttal/belittlement/denigration of the originator.
Mike
At 08:11 PM 30/07/2015, you wrote:
In the most recent draft of MOSP 3 (19 June 2015), a new requirement has been
added in by the GFA. A form 2 now lasts only for the lesser of 250 hours, or 12
months (Section 11.3.2). Particularly for clubs with high use two seaters, this
is an extremely expensive burden. For example, at Southern Cross, this means
we'll be almost doubling our Form 2 inspections across the fleet in any given
12 month period. Our DG1000 will be probably subject to 3 most years.
Is anyone aware of the rationale behind this change? Considering most of these
high use gliders are already subject to 100hrly and/or 3 month inspections, it
seems like an extremely expensive exercise that is will not make us any safer.
These gliders have been operating for years or decades with a single yearly
main checkup.
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