Hi Jenny >From what I have heard, the "Cessna Hook" is no longer available, but the Schweizer hook is the same (maybe the Schweizer hook was sold on the Cessna parts list as the Cessna Hook?)and comes with the installation drawings. Pam
-----Original Message----- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Jenny Ganderton Sent: Monday, 24 October 2011 4:29 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Cessna 182P tug We used to have a C182 E model at Forbes which was used as a parachute jump plane and a glider tug - but not at the same time! It has a Cessna latch hook on it, and it gave no trouble at all. The rego of the plane is ICU, and it was sold to a couple of club members as neither gliding not parachuting happens at Forbes any more. The hook is still installed as far as I know. I think Lachlan Valley Aviation in Cowra may have fitted the hook. Although latch hooks are not permitted on gliders any more, they are still allowed on tugs. I should have thought that using a Cessna hook on a Cessna tug would be the easiest to get approved - but what do I know? Regards Jenny On 24/10/11 15:58, John McFarlane wrote: > The Schweitzer couldn't have been that bad - or they would have attracted AD > action to prevent their use > > Interestingly, to address some of your stated areas of acceptability this > company manufactures a "Like" tow hook with improvements (unable to validate > tests/methodology) > http://www.wingsunlimitedtowhooks.com/index.html > > Has anyone had any experience with the hook at all, it looks reasonable. > > Regards > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net > [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of > opsw...@bigpond.net.au > Sent: Monday, 24 October 2011 12:27 PM > To: p...@kurstjens.com; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in > Australia. > Cc: John McFarlane > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Cessna 182P tug > > > Pam, > > my understanding is that the Schwiezer type hook is not acceptable as it > does not have the aligning function that is found in the tost hook design. > The outer ring keeps the load at right angles to hook. the old > cessna/schweizer hook was mounted on an AN bolt and could move and not > release or auto release. > > Aerial ag at bankstown did fabricate the tost mount in the past. > > > VH-RLC and VH-EFY were two 182's that were used extensively for towing. > > regards > > Peter Heath. > > > > > ---- John McFarlane<john.mcfarl...@mcfarlane.net.au> wrote: > > ============= > Hi Pam, > > > > You can install a hook via two processes: > > 1. Purchase a Hook installation with a Supplemental Type Certificate > (STC) from a vendor(Tost, Schweitzer) - comes with everything you need and > is a log book entry if installed as per the vendors instructions. STC > issuing authority really needs to be FAA or EASA to be accepted. Once in > your hand, with the parts, you can just have your LAME install. > > 2. Cobble up something that doesn't coming from Item one and go > through the CASA approval process, including CAR 35 design authority, P > Charts etc. Historical Approvals are ok, but if the history you choose is > not from an Approved install then that owner may not be too happy as CASA > may review their install and refuse to accept this as acceptable for yours. > > > > An STC is the easiest road to travel, costs are known. Option 2 can be > easy, hard, cheap and expensive and very time consuming. The joy of the STC > is that has all been done by the vendor, they will however be seeking to > recoup these costs through the purchase price of their product. > > > > Regards > > John > > > > From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net > [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Pam > Kurstjens > Sent: Monday, 24 October 2011 8:49 AM > To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' > Subject: [Aus-soaring] Cessna 182P tug > > > > We plan to use a Cessna 182P for towing. Does anyone out there have a Cessna > 182P already towing and if so, could they help us with info on approvals, > P-charts and flight manual supplements? > > If we can obtain figures already issued by CASA or an engineering firm it > will save us time and money. > > P-charts for a Cessna 182 of lower engine performance would also be helpful, > as we could say the performance will be at least as good. > > CASA used to issue these approvals, P-charts and supplements, but these days > the work is done by private firms. I have been in touch with AutoAvia of > Bankstown and their advice is to see what info we can find from similar A/C > already towing. > > Many thanks > > Pam Kurstjens > > 04 2989 8872 > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
