What are the penalties/sanctions if you flop on a RPT aerodrome in a non
motorised glider because the day dies for example. I ask only out of curiosity
and laziness to research.
From: Paul Mander
Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 11:21 AM
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Petition to remove ASIC
Hi Bob, seems it was a Phurhpy. Here is the latest from our CFI:
I have researched the issues behind the petition re ASIC cards and am now
understand what it behind this.
Firstly, as Paul Mander pointed out I was not clear in my previous note.
We do not have an exemption from the ASIC card but we do have an exemption from
the AVID card. The ASIC card allows access to security areas in airfields.
The AVID card is part of a power licence and is a security clearance for a
pilot. This proposal effectively asks to replace the ASIC card with the AVID
card – which could have raised the issue that we have an exemption from the
AVID card.
To cut a long story short this proposal does not create the problems I was
concerned about and is benign.
So by all means respond and add your name to the list.
Apologies for making this matter complex but there was a possibility that this
would create problems for us.
All clear now? Happy Christmas, Paul
From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Bob Ward
Sent: Friday, 20 December 2013 7:05 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Petition to remove ASIC
Paul,
What does he mean that Sports aviation pilots do not require an ASIC ? When I
land my RV7A at any RPT serviced airport, I certainly require an ASIC. When Pam
and Gerrit recently used several RPT serviced airports on the way to Burketown
and return, I understand that they were required to produce their ASIC more
than once? I am sure that this guy has it wrong.
Regards
Bob Ward
From: Paul Mander
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 2:14 PM
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' ; 'DDSC Chat'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Petition to remove ASIC
Our CFI has sent a note to our club (BSC) membership recommending that no one
should sign the petition to remove the ASIC requirement.
Here is his advice: Be aware that sport aviation pilots do not have to hold an
ASIC card. Raising this issue with no research to show that the Government is
likely to listen may only put our exemption at
risk. So far as I know there is no intention on the behalf
of the Government to relax security restrictions - far from it as I understand
it.
AOPA does not support the air sport organisations or self-administration. I do
not understand why AOPA is acting on behalf of sport Aviation with out our
knowledge. I RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO NOT GET INVOLVED UNTIL WE UNDERSTAND WHAT
IS GOING ON. If AOPA wants our support they know very well who to come to.
Anyone know about this? I’ll be taking it up with him, of course, and will
advise accordingly.
From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Peter (PCS3)
Sent: Thursday, 19 December 2013 7:36 AM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.; 'DDSC Chat'
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Petition to remove ASIC
Ladies & Gents,
The following is a link to a petition to abolish the ASIC card:
http://tinyurl.com/removeASIC
I contend that ASIC Cards are an unnecessary impost, particularly in the light
that a risk assessment (in my view) would determine a very low or negligible
effective deterrent against terrorist or subversive intentions; I frankly
resent the implication that we, who are properly identified during training &
work hard to gain our qualifications, then are required to submit to further ID
checks with the dubious privilege of paying for same.
Please consider your support for the petition & circulate to colleagues.
Thanks,
PeterS
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