We have various versions; 3500 and R series are running 7.x, the older 840/880 are running 6.5.x

 NetApp Release 7.0.2P4: Wed Nov 30 01:52:11 PST 2005 charity.amd.com
 NetApp Release 7.0.3P4: Sat Jan 28 06:03:18 PST 2006 chang.amd.com
 NetApp Release 6.5.5P7: Thu Jul 21 02:10:50 PDT 2005 diego.amd.com
 NetApp Release 7.0.3P4: Sat Jan 28 06:03:18 PST 2006 eng.amd.com
 NetApp Release 6.5.5P7: Thu Jul 21 02:10:50 PDT 2005 escher.amd.com
 NetApp Release 6.5.5P7: Thu Jul 21 02:10:50 PDT 2005 faith.amd.com
 NetApp Release 6.5.6P10D3:Thu Apr 13 22:13:21 PDT 2006 fortitud.amd.com
 NetApp Release 6.5.5P7: Thu Jul 21 02:10:50 PDT 2005 frida.amd.com
 NetApp Release 6.5.5P7: Thu Jul 21 02:10:50 PDT 2005 hope.amd.com
 NetApp Release 6.5.5P7: Thu Jul 21 02:10:50 PDT 2005 justice.amd.com
 NetApp Release 7.0.3P4: Sat Jan 28 06:03:18 PST 2006 kuching.amd.com
 NetApp Release 6.5.5P7: Thu Jul 21 02:10:50 PDT 2005 okeeffe.amd.com
 NetApp Release 7.0.2P4: Wed Nov 30 01:52:11 PST 2005 prudence.amd.com
 NetApp Release 6.5.5P7: Thu Jul 21 02:10:50 PDT 2005 raffael.amd.com
 NetApp Release 7.0.3P4: Sat Jan 28 06:03:18 PST 2006 siam.amd.com
 NetApp Release 6.5.5P7: Thu Jul 21 02:10:50 PDT 2005 sobriety.amd.com
 NetApp Release 6.5.5P7: Thu Jul 21 02:10:50 PDT 2005 vangogh.amd.com
 NetApp Release 7.2RC1: Wed Feb 15 00:46:09 PST 2006 jacen.amd.com
 NetApp Release 7.2RC1: Wed Feb 15 00:46:09 PST 2006 jaina.amd.com

--Greg

Blake Golliher wrote:
What version of OnTap are you running?

-Blake

On Jul 11, 2006, at 12:00 PM, Gregory Baker wrote:


We have thousands of linux clients hitting netapp file servers (many
3500 series, clustered) on a local gigabit LAN.  From time to time,
applications return "file not found" when attempting to automount a
directory and access a file.  An example of this is a long running
process, which reads in data, processes it for hours (in which time the
filesystem is unmounted) then tries to read more data from that mount
point (which causes a "file not found" error in the application).  This
occurs about 1/100th of the time.

Researching at Netapp turns up this bit by Chuck Lever (Linux NFS
contributer)

"Using the Linux NFS Client with Network Appliance Filers"
http://www.netapp.com/libr ary/tr/3183.pdf  (February 2006)

page 10 says...

"Due to a bug in the mount command, the default retransmission timeout
value on Linux for NFS over TCP is quite small...To obtain standard
behavior, we strongly recommend using "timeo=600, retrans=2" explicitly
when mounting via TCP."

Our defaults (assuming man pages are correct, RedHat Enterprise Linux 3)
would be timeo=7, retrans=3, which translates to 7+14+28+56 = 105 tenths
of a second (10 seconds).  It appears netapp is suggesting waiting
600+600 = 1200 tenths (120 seconds) before giving up on the mount command...

* What "bug" in the mount command do you believe NetApp is talking about?

* What do you think proper options for NFS auto/mounts would be for
extremely busy centralized NFS filers?

* What is the reference standard behavior?

Thanks,

--Greg

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