On Monday, September 5, 2011, zekopeko <zekop...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas <m...@canonical.com> wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Kévin PEIGNOT wrote on 04/09/11 13:04: >>> >>> I don't agree. PPA should be used only to install unstable / >>> unsupported features. I think the problem is that a lot of very good >>> programs aren't in the default repository and need to be installed via >>> PPA. >>> >>> PPA installation shouldn't be too easy for newbies, because it can be >>> risky for their system, even if they don't realize that. >>>... >> >> The Ubuntu Developer site is now just about ready to solve the problem >> of good programs not being in the default repository. >> <https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/> >> >> So now is a good time to think about how we can make Ubuntu safer by >> making adding PPAs harder. >> >> - -- >> mpt >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAk5krAsACgkQ6PUxNfU6ecog+wCeNJ0yZCexGxSR0vYG9z4ObEC0 >> OsoAmwYmLbOS7pX6oYAAW4w9oYyDhvHF >> =E114 >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > > This is offtopic but the post-release process only solves part of the > problem I tried to explain. If I'm reading PostReleaseApps[1] page > correctly it would still mean that, as per example on the wiki, > PyJunior would be locked only to version 1.0 while there might be 1.2 > out. > > To completely kill PPAs as means to upgrading applications there needs > to be an upgrade mechanism for already existing apps beyond simple > bugfixes. It would also increase overall stability/security since a > developer is more likely to support a newer version (especially > considering how fast the FOSS ecosystem moves). > > Bug 578045 [2] is a good read on the matter. > > [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostReleaseApps/Process > [2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/578045 > > This also touches on something I think Ubuntu should do and that is > define their development platform. Pick an IDE such as Monodevelop, > pick frameworks, languages etc. and provide an officially supported > set of libraries that will ships with Ubuntu.
I kind of thought that's what Python + GTK + Quickly were, but I could be wrong. Or maybe Ubuntu just needs to do a better job of letting people know about them? Evan
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