But I never mentioned non-maximized windows at all. My argument pertained to the dash.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 16:43, Sunil Singh Rana <sunil.r...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry I think I didn't make myself clear enough. > About the circular button I meat the circular shape of the buttons. I think > their design being circular is not consistent with the rest of the design of > the unity. Which has more squarish throughout. > > I agree with the global menu bar for maximized window is a great idea; but > the point I raised was for non-maximized windows. Its nice to have the > windows control available on the ( un-maximized) window it self; but for the > windows menu one still have to traverse the mouse pointer to the top bar. > I think it would be better to have windows menu also on the (un-maximized) > window itself. > > I got the idea of the design. > > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 23:18, Ian Santopietro <isan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > So far consistency is concerned I never felt that the circular windows> >> > controls consistent with any part of unity. >> >> They're used to control the dash. You can't make the Dash full screen >> without them. >> >> They integrate the window controls into the panel for maximized >> windows because they integrate the menu bar and title bar into the top >> panel. Doing this saves nearly 50 pixels of vertical screen real >> estate, which is nice on large monitors, and huge on smaller screens >> like netbooks. Giving the Dash window controls simply makes it more >> consistent with the rest of Unity. >> >> Transparent panels blend in with the dash, and make it feel more like >> an extension of the panel and launcher, which it is. With the dash >> open and full screen, it feels like a single sheet draped over the >> screen since everything blends together seamlessly. Visually, it's >> very pleasing. >> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 13:44, Sunil Singh Rana <sunil.r...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 18:05, Ian Santopietro <isan...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I mean that the panel is now disconnected from the rest of Unity. With >> >> the >> >> panel at the bottom, there's no reason for the panel to turn >> >> transparent. >> >> There's no reason for the Dash's window controls to be in the panel. >> >> Having >> >> the launcher on the left side is important, because without that, >> >> several >> >> other points in unity simply don't make any sense. >> > >> > >> > Hi, >> > May I please request to make those several other points >> > of >> > Unity more clear. >> > Please forgive my ignorance. >> > >> > I agree that there in no reason for the window controls to be in the >> > panel. >> > I personally think there is no reason for any window that is not >> > maximized >> > to have controls and menus on the top panel. It makes unnecessary mouse >> > travels; though I can understand it might me useful for small form >> > factors. >> > >> > I also never understood the philosophy behind making panels transparent >> > when >> > dash is called -- please forgive my ignorance once again. >> > >> > So far consistency is concerned I never felt that the circular windows >> > controls consistent with any part of unity. >> > >> > Personally I don't know much of advantages of having panel in left apart >> > from having more vertical space. But I see the challenges it presents to >> > make a consistent design. >> > >> > >> >> On Nov 30, 2011 8:16 AM, "Omar B." <estela...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> what do you mean "it doesnt work"? >> >>> >> >>> you just looked at the first screen and havent tried it. >> >>> >> >>> here are more screens: >> >>> >> >>> http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=171694.0 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/how-to-move-unity-launcher-to-bottom-of.html >> >>> >> >>> but its still in dev of course. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > From: isan...@gmail.com >> >>> > Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 13:04:03 -0700 >> >>> > To: sunil.r...@gmail.com >> >>> > CC: ayatana@lists.launchpad.net >> >>> > Subject: Re: [Ayatana] unity at the bottom >> >>> > >> >>> > What happens to the top panel with the launcher at the bottom? What >> >>> > about the Dash window controls? Without sticking the top panel on >> >>> > the >> >>> > left, I don't see how this design works. >> >>> > >> >>> > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:01, Sunil Singh Rana >> >>> > <sunil.r...@gmail.com> >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> > > I think its a great idea. Design can be modified so that it remain >> >>> > > consistent if some user chooses it to be on bottom. I don't really >> >>> > > see much >> >>> > > philosophy behind the current design; for example: I don't know >> >>> > > why >> >>> > > the top >> >>> > > panel or left panel have to have the grey transparent visual >> >>> > > effect >> >>> > > when >> >>> > > dash is called. I wouldn't mind if the dash shows itself in the >> >>> > > center of >> >>> > > the screen, without blocking the menus and controls of the >> >>> > > previous >> >>> > > in-focus >> >>> > > application. In the later case, I would be able to drag and drop >> >>> > > from >> >>> > > the >> >>> > > dash to any side of the screen, and the design would look more >> >>> > > symmetric. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Sunil >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 18:45, Swapnil Bhartiya >> >>> > > <swapnil.bhart...@gmail.com> >> >>> > > wrote: >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> On 11/29/2011 05:55 PM, Christian Rupp wrote: >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> I know it was discussed several times, but a plug-in finally got >> >>> > >>> it >> >>> > >>> working: >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/install-ubuntu-unity-bottom-launcher.html >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> Should we include it in one of ubuntu next releases as a easy to >> >>> > >>> activate option >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> On second thoughts I believe, it's a good idea (gives some >> >>> > >> customisation >> >>> > >> to users). Once at the bottom it will be just like Apple Mac's >> >>> > >> dock. >> >>> > >> A good >> >>> > >> thing may be the option to place the launcher anywhere you want - >> >>> > >> left/right >> >>> > >> or bottom. >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> swapnil >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> _______________________________________________ >> >>> > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana >> >>> > >> Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net >> >>> > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana >> >>> > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > -- >> >>> > > सुनील राणा >> >>> > > >> >>> > > "Unselfishness is more paying only people have not the patience to >> >>> > > practice >> >>> > > it." >> >>> > > >> >>> > > " 'I love you' is a wrong sentence as where, there exist 'I' and >> >>> > > 'you' love >> >>> > > can not. 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Love is an attribute of the absolute." >> >> >> >> -- >> Ian Santopietro >> >> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. >> See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html >> >> "Eala Earendel enlga beorohtast >> Ofer middangeard monnum sended" >> >> Pa gur yv y porthaur? >> >> Public GPG key (RSA): >> >> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x412F52DB1BBF1234 > > > > > -- > सुनील राणा > > "Unselfishness is more paying only people have not the patience to practice > it." > > " 'I love you' is a wrong sentence as where, there exist 'I' and 'you' love > can not. Love is an attribute of the absolute." -- Ian Santopietro Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html "Eala Earendel enlga beorohtast Ofer middangeard monnum sended" Pa gur yv y porthaur? 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