Thank you John! That explains a lot about the naming. Even some of my relatives who came over as "Vasconcellos" sometimes registered for the draft or other things as "Vasconcelos". Add that to the males adopting their mother's last name and it can get very confusing!
I checked my tree for your father's name and couldn't find it. I still have more to enter from the book though. The nexus for me is Manuel José Conde Visconde do Rosario. Since my Vasconcellos line married into the Conde family (my grandfather is a godson and he married a first cousin from the Conde side), I have very good information at that point. Before, not much.... We have many cousins in the Central Valley of California. I'm in Sacramento now, but was born in the Bay Area. Best Regards, Bill On Oct 25, 9:09 pm, John Vasconcelos <gfsjo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Bill, > Welcome to the list. My name is John Vasconcelos (that's right- a > single "L") . While we're at it, Let's talk about spellings of the > name. The original spelling was "Vasconcellos". At some point sometime > in the early 1920's as I recall, the "powers that be" in the > Portuguese speaking world decided to eliminate double letters in most > words. Henceforth, "Vasconcellos" would be spelled "Vasconcelos", > "Mello" would be spelled "Melo", "Corvello" would be spelled > "Corvelo", etc. People who were born and immigrated to the US before > that date would typically retain the double letter spelling, while > people, even in the same family who emigrated to the US after that > date would typically use the single letter spelling.My father had a > half- brother who immigrated to New Bedford in the late 1800's. That > family, to this day retains the "Vasconcellos" spelling. My dad had > first cousins who immigrated to northern California in the early > 1900's who also retained the double "L" spelling. I have first cousins > who have either immigrated in to th US in the 1970's or later who use > the single "L" spelling as well as cousins who are still living in the > Azores. > > My immediate family is from the Island of Flores, Azores. From Azorean > history we know that the first Vasconcellos to reach Flores was > Ascenso Mendes de Vasconcellos, a descendent of Martim Mendes de > Vasconcellos of Madeira. Some of his descendants eventually reached > Terceira and from there some of the other Azores including Flores and > Graciosa. So we are probably related. My father was Joao Vitorino > Vasconcelos from Lomba, Flores who immigated to the US and eventually > settled in the Fresno, California area. I was born in Fresno but now > live in the Los Angeles area. Keep in touch > Regards, > (cousin?) John Vasconcelos > > On 10/23/11, want2beunique <want2beuni...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to find information on my family's ancestry back to the > > Azores. My grandfather is generation 1 (William Vasconcellos). Seems > > that they came over as "Vasconcellos" (two L's), but other spelling > > seems to indicate on "L". For the US side of the family, I have two > > and the Azores side has one. The Vasconcellos family arrived in > > August of 1913 on the SS Madonna. The mother, father and son Carlos > > all went back to the Azores. Didn't like the pace of life in the US > > according to my mother. I have a copy of the book "O Benemerito > > Visconde Do Rosario", in which all of my family is listed. The Conde > > side is well represented, but the Vasconcelos stops at Joao. Any help > > is appreciated! > > > Ancestors of William Silva Vasconcellos > > > Generation 1 > > > 1. William Silva Vasconcellos, son of João Silva Vasconcelos and > > Amelia Carolina Espinola Conde was born on 31 Jan 1898 in Graciosa, > > Azores, Portugal. He died on 15 Apr 1977 in Santa Cruz, Santa Cruz, > > California, USA. He married Ana Ermelinda Bettencourt, daughter of > > Candido Espinola Bettencourt and Maria Amélia Espínola Conde on 20 Oct > > 1930. She was born on 12 Jan 1905 in Graciosa, Azores, Portugal. She > > died on 05 Jul 2001 in Santa Cruz, Santa Cruz, California, USA. He > > married Mariana Silva. She was born on 04 Jan 1902 in Azores, > > Portugal. She died on 07 May 1929. > > > Generation 2 > > > 2. João Silva Vasconcelos, son of Manuel Silva Vasconcelos and Delfina > > Maxima Cunha was born in 1861 in Praia Graciora. He died in 1945. He > > married Amelia Carolina Espinola Conde. > > > 3. Amelia Carolina Espinola Conde, daughter of Fransisco Espínola Melo > > and Constância Emília Conde was born on 05 Nov 1864 in Caminho da > > Vitoria, Guadalupe. She died on 10 Jun 1952. > > > Amelia Carolina Espinola Conde and João Silva Vasconcelos had the > > following children: > > > 1. i. William Silva Vasconcellos, son of João Silva Vasconcelos and > > Amelia Carolina Espinola Conde was born on 31 Jan 1898 in Graciosa, > > Azores, Portugal. He died on 15 Apr 1977 in Santa Cruz, Santa Cruz, > > California, USA. He married Ana Ermelinda Bettencourt, daughter of > > Candido Espinola Bettencourt and Maria Amélia Espínola Conde on 20 Oct > > 1930. She was born on 12 Jan 1905 in Graciosa, Azores, Portugal. She > > died on 05 Jul 2001 in Santa Cruz, Santa Cruz, California, USA. He > > married Mariana Silva. She was born on 04 Jan 1902 in Azores, > > Portugal. She died on 07 May 1929. > > > 2. Louis S. Vasconcellos, son of João Silva Vasconcelos and Amelia > > Carolina Espinola Conde was born on 27 Dec 1899. He died on 22 Dec > > 1996 in New Bedford, Bristol, Massachusetts, United States. He married > > Palmeda Daniels, daughter of John S Daniels and Wilhelmina Kiteria on > > 23 Jun 1924 in New Bedford, Massachusetts, United States (Married 72 > > years). She was born on 15 Dec 1900 in Azores, Portugal. She died on > > 14 Mar 2002 in Acushnet, Bristol, Massachusetts, United States of > > America. > > > 3. Constancia Conde Vasconcellos, daughter of João Silva Vasconcelos > > and Amelia Carolina Espinola Conde was born on 26 Sep 1890 in Praia > > Graciora. She died on > > > 3 Aug 1947 in Santa Cruz, Santa Cruz, California, USA. > > > 4. Maria Conde Vasconcellos, daughter of João Silva Vasconcelos and > > Amelia Carolina Espinola Conde was born on 02 Feb 1893. She died on 22 > > Oct 1965 in New Bedford, Massachusetts, United States. She married > > Antone E. Bettencourt on > > > 19 Jul 1919 in New Bedford, Massachusetts, United States. He was born > > on 19 Oct 1885 in Portugal. He died on 12 Apr 1956 in Alameda County, > > California, USA. > > > 5. Eufrosina Emilia Conde Vasconcellos, daughter of João Silva > > Vasconcelos and Amelia Carolina Espinola Conde was born on 20 May 1894 > > in Praia Graciora. > > > 6. Henrique Silva Vasconcellos, son of João Silva Vasconcelos and > > Amelia Carolina Espinola Conde was born on 06 Feb 1896 in Graciosa, > > Azores, Portugal. > > > 7. Francisco Espinola Silva Vasconcellos, son of João Silva > > Vasconcelos and Amelia Carolina Espinola Conde was born on 27 Mar 1902 > > in Guadalupe Graciosa. > > > 8. Carlos Silva Vasconcelos, son of João Silva Vasconcelos and Amelia > > Carolina Espinola Conde was born on 11 Oct 1905. He died on 17 Feb > > 1982. He married Tomásia Amélia da Conceição on 24 Nov 1937. > > 9. Filipe Vasconcelos, son of João Silva Vasconcelos and Amelia > > Carolina Espinola Conde was born on 19 Aug 1907. He died in 1907. > > > Generation 3 > > > 4. Manuel Silva Vasconcelos. He married Delfina Maxima Cunha. > > > 5. Delfina Maxima Cunha. > > > Delfina Maxima Cunha and Manuel Silva Vasconcelos had the following > > children: > > > 2. i. João Silva Vasconcelos, son of Manuel Silva Vasconcelos and > > Delfina Maxima Cunha was born in 1861 in Praia Graciora. He died in > > 1945. He married Amelia Carolina Espinola Conde. She was born on 05 > > Nov 1864 in Caminho da Vitoria, Guadalupe. She died on 10 Jun 1952. > > > 2. Manuel Silva Vasconcellos Jr.. He married Emilia Ermelinda Conde, > > daughter of Jose Espinola Ataide and Ana Tomasia Melo on 30 Jan 1888. > > She was born on 07 Apr 1860 in Caminho da Igreja, Guadalupe, Graciosa, > > Azores. > > > 6. Fransisco Espínola Melo. He died in Azores, Portugal. He married > > Constância Emília Conde, daughter of Teodosio J Conde and Maria M > > Pacheco on 21 May 1860. > > > 7. Constância Emília Conde, daughter of Teodosio J Conde and Maria M > > Pacheco was born on 23 Oct 1837 in Brazil. She died on 17 Apr 1908 in > > Azores, Portugal. > > > Constância Emília Conde and Fransisco Espínola Melo had the following > > children: > > > 3. i. Amelia Carolina Espinola Conde, daughter of Fransisco Espínola > > Melo and Constância Emília Conde was born on 05 Nov 1864 in Caminho da > > Vitoria, Guadalupe. She died on 10 Jun 1952. She married João Silva > > Vasconcelos. He was born in 1861 in Praia Graciora. He died in 1945. > > > 2. Maria Amélia Espínola Conde, daughter of Fransisco Espínola Melo > > and Constância Emília Conde was born on 23 Oct 1858. She died in 1936 > > in Azores, Portugal. She married Candido Espinola Bettencourt, son of > > Joao Jose Espinola Medina and Maria Sao Jose on 07 Feb 1881 in > > Guadalupe, Azores, Portugal. He was born in 1853. He died in 1914 in > > Azores, Portugal. > > > 3. Manuel Jose Conde, son of Fransisco Espínola Melo and Constância > > Emília Conde was born on 01 Dec 1860. > > > 4. Eufrosina, daughter of Fransisco Espínola Melo and Constância > > Emília Conde was born on 17 Mar 1863. She died in 1864. > > > 5. Francisco Espinola Conde, son of Fransisco Espínola Melo and > > Constância Emília Conde was born on 02 Nov 1866. He died in 1975. > > > 6. Rosa Ermelinda Conde, daughter of Fransisco Espínola Melo and > > Constância Emília Conde was born on 02 Jan 1869 in Guadalupe, Azores, > > Portugal (Caminho da Vitoria). She married Andre Sousa Conde on 19 Jun > > 1890. > > > 7. João Espinola Conde, son of Fransisco Espínola Melo and Constância > > Emília Conde was born on 26 Feb 1871. > > > 8. Alfredo Espinola Conde, son of Fransisco Espínola Melo and > > Constância Emília Conde was born on 06 Nov 1873 in Caminho da Vitoria, > > Guadalupe. He died on 26 Sep 1936. He married Maria Tomasia > > Bettencourt, daughter of Joao Espinola Bettencourt Veiga and > > Capitolina Tomasia Bettencourt on 17 Nov 1898. > > > 9. Alice Ermelinda Conde, daughter of Fransisco Espínola Melo and > > Constância Emília Conde was born on 29 Apr 1876 in Caminho da Vitoria, > > Guadalupe. She died on 12 Nov 1967 in Rua Direita, Santa Cruz, Azores, > > Portugal. > > > 10. Luis Espinola Conde, son of Fransisco Espínola Melo and Constância > > Emília Conde was born on 26 May 1883. > > > Bill > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > > to>azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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