the spelling is Manilla, two L's.
________________________________ From: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, 20 January 2020 4:51 PM To: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary Hi Anthony, I can't remember the percentage of Azoreans who are now Roman Catholic. It's high. Back in the day, it was probably something like 98% were Catholic. Maybe someone has those statistics. At the time period you are speaking about, there are no birth records. Birth records didn't start until 1911. Before that, we use the Catholic Church baptisms as our source for birth records. So a baby would be born at home and within a few days to a week (*typically* - there are always exceptions), the baby would be taken to the local church to be baptized. Since your ancestors had already left the Azores, they would have to baptize their baby when they arrived in Australia. You need to check the Australian Catholic Church records near the port where your ancestors arrived. The Azores islands do have some regional differences, just like many countries have regional differences. Farming, fishing were very common and many still do farm or fish now. Manila? North South West? Is that the Philippines? I thought you were talking Australia. For arrival documents, you'd have to check your country (Philippines or Australia or whatever you are talking about) and ask about their arrival records or immigration records. A local genealogy society or your local Family History Center should be able to help you. If you don't know what a Family History Center is, look up Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormons) and call them and ask where the nearest Family History Center is. No, you don't have to be Mormon/LDS to use it. It is open to the public like any other library, however many have limited hours since they are run by volunteers. Good luck, Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 4:41 PM Anthony Silver <anthony.silve...@hotmail.com<mailto:anthony.silve...@hotmail.com>> wrote: well, apparently he was a roman catholic. and birth records are kept in Lisbon? hmmm, ok. just wondering about the Azores, does each island have its own "characteristics" or "traits"? also, I do know that he owned a farm near manilla, here in nsw. were there may farming families back then? ________________________________ From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> <azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com<mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>> Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2020 11:10 AM To: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary Why would a woman that pregnant get on the boat if he was born off the coast of Faial? If she went into labor and they were off the coast, why didn't they turn back and drop the expectant parents off on Faial? The could have caught the next boat. Giving birth and getting seasick at the same time?!?! No thank you, I'd catch the next boat if I was that pregnant! If the story is true, I have no idea where Azorean births at sea would be recorded in 1838-1841. There was no official vital service record keeping. The records of that time period are mainly the Catholic Church. If he was born on a boat, they'd have to take the baby to a church to be baptized, which would be a Catholic Church in Australia. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 7:58 AM Pamela Hand <poppymayf...@gmail.com<mailto:poppymayf...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Anthony Some of the Silver family researchers here in Australia believe that your Joseph Da Silva was born at sea around 1838 to 1841 off the coast of Faial, one of the western islands of the Azores. It is also suggested that records for births at sea are kept in Lisbon. Maybe Cheri or one of the group may know where these birth/baptism records for births at sea would be recorded and how to access them. I am guessing there would not be a lot of births at sea between 1838 and 1841, and therefore could be a starting point for you to find your ancestors. Hopefully someone can help. Pam On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 at 09:56, Anthony Silver <anthony.silve...@hotmail.com<mailto:anthony.silve...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Thankyou Cheri. hmm, that's something to really think about. ________________________________ From: azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> <azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com<mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>> Sent: Friday, 17 January 2020 3:04 PM To: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary Anthony S, You have to find out which island. It's just the way it is organized there. That's how they do their records. I don't know how it works in Australia, but I'm sure if I wrote to the main Australian government and said I want the birth certificate of my long lost cousin who went to Australia, they couldn't help me. I'm sure I'd need a location for them to pull a record for me. You need a location in the Azores. All occupations existed in the 1860s. Laborers, farmers, fisherman, servants, merchants, teachers, etc. No tech jobs, no electricians, no plumbers, as those things just didn't exist. I believe schooling was very limited and was only for the well to do. Schooling for the common people didn't start happening until sometime in the 1900s. You need to find every possible record that your immigrant ancestor may have left in Australia. You need at least an island. If you have exhausted that, then you will need to turn to DNA and you will need to test the oldest family members you can find and you will have to test multiple family members in order to get enough of your immigrant's DNA to figure out the puzzle. Good luck, Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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