Can I also point out that Weather.com and Yahoo both provide RSS feeds and a API for those dying to know what the weather will be ;)
http://developer.yahoo.com/weather/index.html Like Ben said, please be patient. There are lots of data which we would love to offer but they need to be rights cleared and that simply takes a long time :( Ian Forrester | BBC World Service [New Media Software Engineer] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dotBen (aka Ben Metcalfe) Sent: 28 July 2006 12:34 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Weather Feeds: these are NOT covered under the backstage terms, please do NOT use them. yes, sorry. they SHOULDN'T be used outside the BBC. On 28/07/06, Kim Plowright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Kim's right, these feeds should be used outside the BBC's site and > from that perspective, > > Freudian slip, Ben? :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dotBen (aka Ben > Metcalfe) > Sent: 28 July 2006 10:58 > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > Subject: Re: [backstage] Weather Feeds: these are NOT covered under > the backstage terms, please do NOT use them. > > Hello all, > > Kim's right, these feeds should be used outside the BBC's site and > from that perspective, in the morning after the night before, I > realise I probably shouldn't have posted my previous email. > > I would point out that all I did was pull the urls out of the > javascript on the BBC News Website - which no doubt someone else would > have done instead if I hadn't... > > ...but I did indeed know that the data wasn't licensed (which is the > different to someone else doing it ) and so in the cold light of day I > realise it was a little irresponsible for me to encourage you to put > the data on your site. > > Please be patient whilst the BBC continues to work out an 'official' > weather offering with the Met Office. > > > Cheers > Ben > > > > On 27/07/06, Kim Plowright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah! That was quick work, and fab, thanks, but.... > > > > Next time eh? > > > > Sorry! > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Phil Winstanley > > Sent: Thu 27/07/2006 20:47 > > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > > Subject: RE: [backstage] Weather Feeds: these are NOT covered under > the backstage terms, please do NOT use them. > > > > Ah - ignore my lat mail then. J > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Plowright > > Sent: 27 July 2006 20:18 > > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk > > Subject: [backstage] Weather Feeds: these are NOT covered under the > > backstage terms, please do NOT use them. > > > > > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > Jem is not around today, so I've been asked to put my official BBC > > hat > > > on [1] and let you all know the situation with the weather feeds > > referenced below. > > > > Here's the short version > > > > The weather feeds detailed below are *NOT COVERED* by the BBC > > backstage terms. > > Please, *DO NOT* use those feeds. > > I'm *REALLY SORRY*, I know you're all frustrated by the saga of > > getting the weather feeds to you. > > > > So, here's a slightly longer version. > > > > As you all know, the data in the weather feeds isn't actually owned > > by > > > the BBC - the BBC has an agreement with the Met Office to use the > data. > > The good people in BBC Weather have been negotiating with the Met to > > get this data publically available, but that's been a lengthy process. > > Obviously, we have to find an arrangement that keeps both the Met > > and the BBC, and you lot on the list happy. > > > > Eventually, it was agreed in principal that the data could be > > released > > > to backstage under a developer key system, so the Met would know who > > was using the data and how. As the government expects them to > > expolit their assets commercially to relieve the burden on the tax > > payer, this > > > seems reasonable; they can tell if someone starts a commercial > > service > > > using the non-commercial data and make them stop. > > > > The developer key system was a slight problem, though - there have > > been real problems getting the system set up on the BBC > > infrastructure. I'm not sure what the problems have been, I'm sorry, > > but I do know that the BBC boxen are somewhat eccentric and > > difficult to work with, and probably wanted the code in BBC 32K > > BASIC on punch > cards or something. > > So that's where we are. > > > > The availability of the data without that key system has the > > potential > > > to really sour the BBC's relationship with the Met Office. It may > > well > > > make negotiating further data releases really hard, both internally > > and with other BBC partners; and might jeopardise the whole > > backstage project. It's bigger than 'just backstage', too - it's all > > of the BBC's weather service that could be affected. > > > > So - and I'm sorry to have to ask you this - please could you > > refrain from using the feeds below. > > > > Kass, the lovely head developer in weather, is trying to get a > > free-to-air 2 day with observations RSS feed up and running, but > > she's > > > trying to do that on top of her regular stiff workload (in the same > > way that I keep an eye on the list above my regular job, just out of > > love for the project). Once the new backstage producer starts, then > > hopefully they'll pick up the work on the developer key. I'll keep > > prodding people around the organisation to keep things moving; as > > you know, we're restructuring inside the BBC at the moment, so > > things are rather up in the air. In the meantime, I really > > appreciate your patience and forebearance in the face of lovely JSON > > feeds... > > > > I know this makes us look like a bunch of numpties, and I'm > > personally > > > really sorry. > > > > Sorry if this sounds a bit formal, I just had to rewrite it after my > > work webmail ate the previous draft! > > > > Kim > > > > [1] Heather coloured tweed, with a trout fishing fly in the hatband, > > for those of you who remember. > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > -- > > > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > > are addressed. > > > > If you have received this email in error please notify the > > originator of the message. 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