Indeed this is a interesting manuscript, and it also has some Weiss in it.
But the Weiss pieces there prove that the quality of the manuscript in
itself isn't that high, as these pieces probably wouldn't be ascribed to
Weiss, if the aren't known elsewhere as Weiss pieces.
That means: there are mistakes in it and missing notes ...
Best regards
Markus
Am 07.11.2013 17:03, schrieb William Samson:
Correction- the Giesbert book contains all the pieces from the MS. I
thought there were more in the MS because lute 1 and lute 2 parts are
counted separately. The only significant difference is that Giesbert
changes the order in which they appear.
For players I would like to say that there are some wonderful pieces
here - some for beginners - and many for 11c lute.
Kind regards and thanks,
Bill
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From: William Samson <willsam...@yahoo.co.uk>;
To: Arthur Ness <arthurjn...@verizon.net>; Bernd Haegemann
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Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Cologne lute MS?
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That's very useful! Thank you Bernd and Arthur. It seems that the
majority of the pieces are in the Giesbert book (37 out of 43). If
I've got that right, it's surprising that he didn't include the
remaining half dozen . . .
Bill
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To: Bernd Haegemann <[3]b...@symbol4.de>; William Samson
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Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Cologne lute MS?
Thank you, Bernd. Yes, but the shelf-number is Ms. 5.P.171 (olim, Ms.
1.N.68). See Christian Meyer et al., **Sources manuscrits en
Tabulature,** vol. 2 (Deutschland), 150-51. I was remiss in not
checking Peter Steur's valuable inventory of baroque lute sources!
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From: "Bernd Haegemann" <[1][6]b...@symbol4.de>
To: "William Samson" <[2][7]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 8:32 PM
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Cologne lute MS?
> Is it this?
>
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> Am 31.10.2013 19:10, schrieb William Samson:
>> Dear collective wisdom,
>>
>> You're probably aware of the 'Lautenbuch Livre pour le lut
Koeln, 18.
>> Jahrhundert' published by Schott ED5425, edited by Giesbert
perhaps in
>> the 1930s????
>>
>> There's some nice stuff in there and I was trying to learn more
about
>> the original MS. Apparently it was held in the
Stadtsbibliotheque in
>> Cologne, but I can find no mention of it anywhere apart from
the
Schott
>> publication.
>>
>> I know that there were hundreds of bombing raids against
Cologne
in the
>> second world war. Perhaps it was destroyed at that time?
>>
>> Does anybody know any more about this MS?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bill
>>
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