Hi ,Berner friends,

 I don,t post to often but with all those Bernese at the Philly show would there be
anyone with some pictures they would like to share .

                                                                Thanks
                                                            Clarence P.E.I ,Canada


Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List wrote:

>                             BERNER-L Digest 4127
>
> Topics covered in this issue include:
>
>   1) Re: Female Incontenence
>         by "Janice Parky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   2) Re: Female Incontenence--DES in humans
>         by "Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   3) Philly Show Results
>         by "Maria Crifasi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   4) Re: KY Jelly -- Vickey & her Boy
>         by Sharon Montville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   5) Re: breeders and scam (was "guarantees/contracts")
>         by david and sandra ongemach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   6) Re: Female Incontenence
>         by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   7) Re: xrays etc.
>         by Sharon Montville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   8) RE: Philly Show Results
>         by "Pat Long & Paul Dangel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   9) Re: Sorry - dumb question -Dog show definitions
>         by "Gail Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  10) RE: Female Incontenence--DES in humans
>         by Patricia McIlveen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  11) RE: Sorry - dumb question
>         by "Pat Long & Paul Dangel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  12) RE: Philly Show Results
>         by "Andrea Brin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  13) Re: Philly Show Results
>         by "Maria Crifasi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  14) Re: Female Incontinence
>         by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  15) Re: Female Incontenence--DES in humans
>         by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  16) BMDCC Specialty Results from my catalog???
>         by "Lisa Ebnet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  17) Does Nebraska have a minimum puppy age law?
>         by Sharon Montville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  18) Re: BERNER-L digest 4125
>         by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  19) RE: AKC Titles Website
>         by "Nancy Melone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  20) Thanks -
>         by david and sandra ongemach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  21) Puppy Pics
>         by "Ray & Pat Burgett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  22) RE: BMDCA question; staying in touch
>         by "cpete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
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>
> Subject: Re: Female Incontenence
> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 19:58:44 -0500
> From: "Janice Parky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>      "Berner-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>  I had a female Collie in my pre-Berner days who was spayed at 6 months and
> by the time she was a year old, was experiencing spay related incontinence.
> She was put on DES.  I was able to wean the original dose, which I cannot
> remember, down to one dose per month.  She lived to age 13 and had no cancer
> or other DES related problems.
>
> Janice Parky
>
> > My 7 year old girl was spayed just over a year ago.  She occassionally
> will
> > piddle when I scold her or if I want to groom her or even when I give her
> a
> > belly rub.  I checked with my vet and she does not have a UTI or any other
> > illness.  We discussed age/spay related incontenence and she prescribed
> > Proin.  My understanding that this is the same product (formerly names DES
> I
> > believe)that was given to pregnant women years ago and whose daughters
> > developed cancer.  I hesitate to give my girl anything that has been
> proven
> > to cause cancer.
> >
> > I would love to hear from anyone with any information on this product.  I
> > would rather deal with piddles than the fear of giving a cancer causing
> drug
> > to my sweet Batty.
>
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>
> Subject: Re: Female Incontenence--DES in humans
> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 17:03:59 -0800
> From: "Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Hey Vilma,
>
> Don't make fun of the Mc Donalds coffee lawsuit attorney!    :  )
> He lives in San Francisco.
> He contacted me for a puppy then later I called  him about trouble I was
> having with my son's school and to my surprise instead of just giving me
> advice he took care of it for us free of charge! First time anyone had
> challenged the school district and won!
> He's actually a nice guy, and a great attorney to have available!
> Most "big name" lawyers would have been too busy, or not into such
> non-headline cases.
>
> Bernerly,
>
> Mary
>
> Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine
> SnoBear Berners
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://snobear.freeyellow.com
>
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>
> Subject: Philly Show Results
> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 20:15:25 -0500
> From: "Maria Crifasi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Berner List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Pat Long -- would you check to see if I have this right?
>
> Maria, Daisy and The Budman
> ***********************************************
> Saturday
>
> Dogs - puppy
>
> #1 Decade's Shore Thing
>
> 12-18 month old dogs
> #1 Trevi's Prime contender
>
> Bred by Exhibitor
> #19 - Lewa's Zero Gravity
>
> Open dogs
>
> #1 - October The Drake V Tullysky
> #2 - Trevi's Call of the Wild
>
> 2 pts.  Winner's Dog: Lewa's Zero Gravity
> Reserve: October the Drake V Tullysky
>
> Bitches: Puppy
> #1 - Keilissa's Feature Presentation
> #2 - Decade's Moving Violation
> #3 - Von Engel's Icing on the Cake
> #4 - Wyncall's Tribute to Keilissa
>
> 12-18
> #1 Trevi's Black Magic Woman
>
> Bred by Exhibitor
>
> #1 - Lewa's Fast and Furious
> #2 - Von Engle's Image Maker
>
> American Bred
>
> #1 Decade's Summer Nights
>
> Open Bitches:
>
> #1  Keilissa's Ground Zero
> #2 - Greenway's Grand Illusion
> #3 - Keilissa Spicy Blend V Erlise
> #4 - Decade's Alpine Star
>
> Winner's Bitch:  Keilissa's Ground Zero  3 points
> Reserve: Trevi's Black Magic
>
> BOB:
>
> Ch. Keilissa's Lenox Rain
> BOW: Keilissa's  Ground Zero
> Best of Opp. Sex: Ch. L-Sin's Dream's and Desire's
>
> Sunday:
>
> Puppy Dogs:  #1 Decade's Shore Thing
>
> 12-18 mon. Dogs:  #1 - Trevi's Prime Contender
>
> Bred by Exhibitor Dogs: #1 Lewa's Zero Gravity
>
> Open Dogs: #1  Trevi's Call of the Wild
>
> WD: Lewa's Zero Gravity  1 point
> Reserve: Trevi's Call of the Wild
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