Yes, I got it, sorry.  I had sent this before your other message hit my inbox.  
I was just too quick on the reply.

d

Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology
Papa Murphy's Int'l. | d 360-449-4044 | c 360-607-5617 | 
www.papamurphys.com<http://www.papamurphys.com>

From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of hdawg
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:03 AM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company 
email

Sigh.

You don't need to outright block all inbound access to those IP addresses; just 
port 80 and 443 ... or whatever ports you have IIS serving OWA running on.  
That said, you could also block all inbound/outbound traffic to those IPs with 
the exception of TCP port 3101 outbound initiated.  Remember, the NOC doesn't 
make any inbound connections; the BES makes a connection to the NOC, holds that 
session open and all the data flows through it.  Much in the same way that when 
you make a VPN connection you establish a direct connection with an endpoint.  
You initiate the connection and provide some form of credential to authenticate 
... BES does the same thing with the SRP Key and Auth Id.

That SRP connection always stays open ... if it closes / drops communication 
between the BES and HHs stop.

From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Darhl Thomason
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:43 PM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company 
email

HDawg,

Your post shows these addresses as the BIS servers:
BIS IP Range

206.51.26.0/24

193.109.81.0/24

204.187.87.0/24

206.53.144.0/20

216.9.240.0/20

67.233.64.0/19

93.186.16.0/20

68.171.224.0/19


Another post on your site 
http://www.port3101.org/featured-blackberry-kb-articles/793-kb03735-firewall-connection-requirements-blackberry-enterprise-server.html
 shows the same IP range for BES:
BES IP Range

206.51.26.0 /24

193.109.81.0/24

204.187.87.0/24

216.9.240.0/20

206.53.144.0/20

67.223.64.0/19

93.186.16.0/20

68.171.224.0/19


Which means that I can't block those IP's or BES stops working as well.

Back to the drawing board...

Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology
Papa Murphy's Int'l. | d 360-449-4044 | c 360-607-5617 | 
www.papamurphys.com<http://www.papamurphys.com>

From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Darhl Thomason
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:28 AM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company 
email

HDawg,

This looks to be the most promising solution.  Is there another list that shows 
the BES IP's?  I'd want to make sure that they were allowed, the ranges 
provided for BIS are pretty large and I wouldn't be surprised if they overlap 
to some degree.

Thanks!

Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology
Papa Murphy's Int'l. | d 360-449-4044 | c 360-607-5617 | 
www.papamurphys.com<http://www.papamurphys.com>

From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of hdawg
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:13 AM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company 
email

BIS can also use OWA. See: 
http://www.port3101.org/featured-blackberry-kb-articles/792-kb11036-firewall-connection-requirements-blackberry-internet-service.html
 for a list of what IP's BIS connections are coming from.  Block these inbound 
connections at the firewall and you've blocked BIS.

From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Barker
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:09 PM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company 
email

BIS uses IMAP and POP3.  Are you sure it's turned off?

Other options include offline sync using Desktop manager or a 3rd-party EAS 
bridge like AstraSync.

From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Darhl Thomason
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:55 AM
To: 'bes-admins@dataoutages.com'
Subject: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company email

I just found out that we have people with personal Blackberries accessing their 
company email, they are definitely not set up on my BES, so I'm guessing they 
must be using BIS.  How can I prevent them from accessing their company email 
on their personal devices?  I know it's not via IMAP or POP3, we have that 
turned off at the Exchange level.

Thanks!

Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology
Papa Murphy's Int'l. | d 360-449-4044 | c 360-607-5617 | 
www.papamurphys.com<http://www.papamurphys.com>

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