Dear all,
sorry for my apparent stupidity, but I still cannot get bibdesk to render a TeX
preview of a selected reference in apa7 style (NOT „apalike“). Can someone who
managed this please share their preview tex template with me? I’m running
MacTex 2023.
Thank you and best greetings,
Bertolt
> Am 22.06.2023 um 23:05 schrieb Alan Munn <am...@gmx.com>:
>
> If you're using an up-to-date biblatex, and load it with the style=apa option
> it will format things according to the APA7 specfiications in any document
> class. You can get APA6 by using the apa6 package option. The apa7 document
> class is for producing APA conforming manuscripts or preprints, it doesn't do
> any formatting of the bibliography. So I'm not sure what you mean by it not
> working with article:
>
> Here's a simple example:
>
> \documentclass{article}
> \usepackage[american]{babel}
> \usepackage[style=apa]{biblatex}
> \usepackage{csquotes}
> \addbibresource{/usr/local/texlive/2023/texmf-dist/doc/latex/biblatex-apa/biblatex-apa-test-references.bib}
> \begin{document}
> \textcite{10.15:105c}
> \printbibliography
> \end{document}
>
> Notice that if you change the style to apa6 the formatting of the entry
> changes.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> I thought this was the only way to get APA 7th - formatted references? Is
> there a way to get APA 7 style to work with article? I only managed to get
> article to work with APA 6, not 7.
>
>
> Bertolt
>
> > Am 22.06.2023 um 15:39 schrieb am...@gmx.com:
> >
> > Why are you using the apa7 document class? For preview this makes very
> > little sense. Just use article. The class has no effect on the bibliography
> > formatting.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > Sent using the mobile mail app
> >
> > On 6/22/23 at 09:13, Prof. Bertolt Meyer wrote:
> >
> >> Still not working. With the .bib extension, BibDesk throws an error, so
> >> this preview template
> >>
> >> \documentclass[man]{apa7}
> >> \usepackage[american]{babel}
> >> \usepackage{csquotes}
> >> \usepackage[style=apa,backend=biber]{biblatex}
> >> \addbibresource{<<File>>.bib}
> >> \pagestyle{empty}
> >> \textwidth = 6.5in
> >> % \voffset = -105pt
> >> % \hoffset = -120pt
> >>
> >> \begin{document}
> >> \nocite{<<CiteKeys>>}
> >> \printbibliography
> >> \end{document}
> >>
> >> gives this log:
> >>
> >> ---------- BibTeX log file -------
> >> File:
> >> "/var/folders/rd/njfhjmlx6wnbvgr0wl6zvv2h0000gn/T/bibdesk.sWm61C/bibpreview/bibpreview.blg"
> >> [0] Config.pm:307> INFO - This is Biber 2.19
> >> [0] Config.pm:310> INFO - Logfile is 'bibpreview.blg'
> >> [33] biber-darwin:340> INFO - === Thu Jun 22, 2023, 15:08:31
> >> [41] Biber.pm:419> INFO - Reading 'bibpreview.bcf'
> >> [86] Biber.pm:979> INFO - Found 1 citekeys in bib section 0
> >> [96] Biber.pm:4419> INFO - Processing section 0
> >> [102] Biber.pm:4610> INFO - Looking for bibtex file 'bibpreview' for
> >> section 0
> >> [195] UCollate.pm:68> INFO - Overriding locale 'en-US' defaults 'variable
> >> = shifted' with 'variable = non-ignorable'
> >> [195] UCollate.pm:68> INFO - Overriding locale 'en-US' defaults
> >> 'normalization = NFD' with 'normalization = prenormalized'
> >> [196] Biber.pm:4239> INFO - Sorting list 'apa/apasortcite//global/global'
> >> of type 'entry' with template 'apa' and locale 'en-US'
> >> [196] Biber.pm:4245> INFO - No sort tailoring available for locale 'en-US'
> >> [198] UCollate.pm:68> INFO - Overriding locale 'en-US' defaults 'variable
> >> = shifted' with 'variable = non-ignorable'
> >> [198] UCollate.pm:68> INFO - Overriding locale 'en-US' defaults
> >> 'normalization = NFD' with 'normalization = prenormalized'
> >> [198] Biber.pm:4239> INFO - Sorting list 'apa/global//global/global' of
> >> type 'entry' with template 'apa' and locale 'en-US'
> >> [198] Biber.pm:4245> INFO - No sort tailoring available for locale 'en-US'
> >> [199] bbl.pm:660> INFO - Writing 'bibpreview.bbl' with encoding 'UTF-8'
> >> [199] bbl.pm:763> INFO - Output to bibpreview.bbl
> >> [199] Biber.pm:131> WARN - Data source './bibpreview.tex' contains no
> >> BibTeX entries/macros, ignoring
> >> [199] Biber.pm:131> WARN - I didn't find a database entry for 'Mandl_2023'
> >> (section 0)
> >> [199] Biber.pm:133> INFO - WARNINGS: 2
> >>
> >> Without the .bib, the above template results in an empty preview without
> >> error with this log:
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- BibTeX log file -------
> >> File:
> >> "/var/folders/rd/njfhjmlx6wnbvgr0wl6zvv2h0000gn/T/bibdesk.sWm61C/bibpreview/bibpreview.blg"
> >> [0] Config.pm:307> INFO - This is Biber 2.19
> >> [0] Config.pm:310> INFO - Logfile is 'bibpreview.blg'
> >> [30] biber-darwin:340> INFO - === Thu Jun 22, 2023, 15:12:39
> >> [37] Biber.pm:419> INFO - Reading 'bibpreview.bcf'
> >> [79] Biber.pm:979> INFO - Found 1 citekeys in bib section 0
> >> [89] Biber.pm:4419> INFO - Processing section 0
> >> [93] Biber.pm:4610> INFO - Looking for bibtex file 'bibpreview' for
> >> section 0
> >> [174] UCollate.pm:68> INFO - Overriding locale 'en-US' defaults
> >> 'normalization = NFD' with 'normalization = prenormalized'
> >> [174] UCollate.pm:68> INFO - Overriding locale 'en-US' defaults 'variable
> >> = shifted' with 'variable = non-ignorable'
> >> [174] Biber.pm:4239> INFO - Sorting list 'apa/apasortcite//global/global'
> >> of type 'entry' with template 'apa' and locale 'en-US'
> >> [174] Biber.pm:4245> INFO - No sort tailoring available for locale 'en-US'
> >> [177] UCollate.pm:68> INFO - Overriding locale 'en-US' defaults 'variable
> >> = shifted' with 'variable = non-ignorable'
> >> [177] UCollate.pm:68> INFO - Overriding locale 'en-US' defaults
> >> 'normalization = NFD' with 'normalization = prenormalized'
> >> [177] Biber.pm:4239> INFO - Sorting list 'apa/global//global/global' of
> >> type 'entry' with template 'apa' and locale 'en-US'
> >> [177] Biber.pm:4245> INFO - No sort tailoring available for locale 'en-US'
> >> [177] bbl.pm:660> INFO - Writing 'bibpreview.bbl' with encoding 'UTF-8'
> >> [177] bbl.pm:763> INFO - Output to bibpreview.bbl
> >> [178] Biber.pm:131> WARN - Data source './bibpreview.tex' contains no
> >> BibTeX entries/macros, ignoring
> >> [178] Biber.pm:131> WARN - I didn't find a database entry for
> >> 'Mandl:2023ab' (section 0)
> >> [178] Biber.pm:133> INFO - WARNINGS: 2
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Am 22.06.2023 um 15:06 schrieb Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>> Oh, and I don’t see you added the .bib extension to <<File>>.
> >>>
> >>> Christiaan
> >>>
> >>>> On 22 Jun 2023, at 15:05, Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> What if you remove the biblatex from the document class option instead?
> >>>>
> >>>> Christiaan
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 22 Jun 2023, at 14:54, Prof. Bertolt Meyer
> >>>>> <bertolt.me...@psychologie.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That’s not it either. The template looks like this at the moment
> >>>>> (resulting in an empty preview):
> >>>>>
> >>>>> \documentclass[man, biblatex]{apa7}
> >>>>> \usepackage[american]{babel}
> >>>>> \usepackage{csquotes}
> >>>>> % \usepackage[style=apa,backend=biber]{biblatex}
> >>>>> \addbibresource{<<File>>}
> >>>>> \pagestyle{empty}
> >>>>> \textwidth = 6.5in
> >>>>> % \voffset = -105pt
> >>>>> % \hoffset = -120pt
> >>>>>
> >>>>> \begin{document}
> >>>>> \nocite{<<CiteKeys>>}
> >>>>> \printbibliography
> >>>>> \end{document}
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And gives (now using the BibTeX output):
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---------- BibTeX log file -------
> >>>>> File:
> >>>>> "/var/folders/rd/njfhjmlx6wnbvgr0wl6zvv2h0000gn/T/bibdesk.sWm61C/bibpreview/bibpreview.blg"
> >>>>> [0] Config.pm:307> INFO - This is Biber 2.19
> >>>>> [0] Config.pm:310> INFO - Logfile is 'bibpreview.blg'
> >>>>> [30] biber-darwin:340> INFO - === Thu Jun 22, 2023, 14:50:19
> >>>>> [38] Biber.pm:419> INFO - Reading 'bibpreview.bcf'
> >>>>> [80] Biber.pm:979> INFO - Found 1 citekeys in bib section 0
> >>>>> [91] Biber.pm:4419> INFO - Processing section 0
> >>>>> [96] Biber.pm:4610> INFO - Looking for bibtex file 'bibpreview' for
> >>>>> section 0
> >>>>> [184] UCollate.pm:68> INFO - Overriding locale 'en-US' defaults
> >>>>> 'variable = shifted' with 'variable = non-ignorable'
> >>>>> [184] UCollate.pm:68> INFO - Overriding locale 'en-US' defaults
> >>>>> 'normalization = NFD' with 'normalization = prenormalized'
> >>>>> [184] Biber.pm:4239> INFO - Sorting list
> >>>>> 'apa/apasortcite//global/global' of type 'entry' with template 'apa'
> >>>>> and locale 'en-US'
> >>>>> [184] Biber.pm:4245> INFO - No sort tailoring available for locale
> >>>>> 'en-US'
> >>>>> [187] UCollate.pm:68> INFO - Overriding locale 'en-US' defaults
> >>>>> 'normalization = NFD' with 'normalization = prenormalized'
> >>>>> [187] UCollate.pm:68> INFO - Overriding locale 'en-US' defaults
> >>>>> 'variable = shifted' with 'variable = non-ignorable'
> >>>>> [187] Biber.pm:4239> INFO - Sorting list 'apa/global//global/global' of
> >>>>> type 'entry' with template 'apa' and locale 'en-US'
> >>>>> [187] Biber.pm:4245> INFO - No sort tailoring available for locale
> >>>>> 'en-US'
> >>>>> [187] bbl.pm:660> INFO - Writing 'bibpreview.bbl' with encoding 'UTF-8'
> >>>>> [187] bbl.pm:763> INFO - Output to bibpreview.bbl
> >>>>> [187] Biber.pm:131> WARN - Data source './bibpreview.tex' contains no
> >>>>> BibTeX entries/macros, ignoring
> >>>>> [187] Biber.pm:131> WARN - I didn't find a database entry for
> >>>>> 'Mandl:2023ab' (section 0)
> >>>>> [187] Biber.pm:133> INFO - WARNINGS: 2
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Am 22.06.2023 um 14:45 schrieb Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Perhaps there is a problem with loading bib latex twice, once as an
> >>>>>> option to \documentclass and once using \usepackage?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Christiaan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 22 Jun 2023, at 14:25, Prof. Bertolt Meyer
> >>>>>>> <bertolt.me...@psychologie.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hmmm, that re-introduces an error and oddly the log says this (I
> >>>>>>> swear I only changed the one line like you suggested to include the
> >>>>>>> .bib):
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> AED endfloat: Processing end Figures and Tables
> >>>>>>> ! Undefined control sequence.
> >>>>>>> <inserted text> \@shorttitle
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> l.15 \end{document}
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The control sequence at the end of the top line
> >>>>>>> of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have
> >>>>>>> misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct
> >>>>>>> spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue,
> >>>>>>> and I'll forget about whatever was undefined.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [1{/usr/local/texlive/2023/texmf-var/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map}{/usr/l
> >>>>>>> ocal/texlive/2023/texmf-dist/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/lm-ec.enc}
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ] (./bibpreview.aux)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> LaTeX Warning: There were undefined references.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Package rerunfilecheck Info: File `bibpreview.out' has not changed.
> >>>>>>> (rerunfilecheck) Checksum: D41D8CD98F00B204E9800998ECF8427E;0.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Package biblatex Warning: Please rerun LaTeX.
> >>>>>>> (biblatex) Page breaks have changed.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Package logreq Info: Writing requests to 'bibpreview.run.xml'.
> >>>>>>> \openout1 = `bibpreview.run.xml'.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Am 22.06.2023 um 14:16 schrieb Christiaan Hofman
> >>>>>>>> <cmhof...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I think for fiber you need the full filename with extension. So
> >>>>>>>> replace the \addbibresource command by
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> \addbibresource{<<File>>.bib}
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Christiaan
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 22 Jun 2023, at 14:00, Prof. Bertolt Meyer
> >>>>>>>>> <bertolt.me...@psychologie.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Alan,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> thanks so much for your help. It now compiles without error, but
> >>>>>>>>> the file is empty, this seems to be the relevant bit:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> (/usr/local/texlive/2023/texmf-dist/tex/latex/apa7/config/APA7american.txt
> >>>>>>>>> File: APA7american.txt 2020/12/02 v1.02 apa7 configuration for
> >>>>>>>>> American English
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> )
> >>>>>>>>> Package caption Info: Begin \AtBeginDocument code.
> >>>>>>>>> Package caption Info: End \AtBeginDocument code.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> LaTeX Warning: Citation 'Mandl:2023ab' undefined on input line 13.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> LaTeX Warning: Empty bibliography on input line 14.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> AED endfloat: Processing end Figures and Tables (./bibpreview.aux)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> LaTeX Warning: There were undefined references.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Package rerunfilecheck Info: File `bibpreview.out' has not changed.
> >>>>>>>>> (rerunfilecheck) Checksum: D41D8CD98F00B204E9800998ECF8427E;0.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Package biblatex Warning: Please (re)run Biber on the file:
> >>>>>>>>> (biblatex) bibpreview
> >>>>>>>>> (biblatex) and rerun LaTeX afterwards.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Package logreq Info: Writing requests to 'bibpreview.run.xml'.
> >>>>>>>>> \openout1 = `bibpreview.run.xml’.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Any idea how to get around this?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Best greetings,
> >>>>>>>>> Bertolt
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Am 21.06.2023 um 23:01 schrieb am...@gmx.com:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> In the TeX preview panel of the preferences you need to use
> >>>>>>>>>> /Library/TeX/texbin/biber instead of bibtex in the “Full path to
> >>>>>>>>>> bibtex” part of the preference.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Alan
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent using the mobile mail app
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 6/21/23 at 15:26, Prof. Bertolt Meyer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello fellow bibdesk users,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I’m trying to get a formatted latex preview in the preview pane
> >>>>>>>>>>> in apa7 style. However, the apa7 document class requires going
> >>>>>>>>>>> through biblatex to do proper apa7 formatting. Here is my attempt
> >>>>>>>>>>> for a corresponding preview template (I’m running MacTex 2023):
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> \documentclass[man, biblatex]{apa7}
> >>>>>>>>>>> \usepackage[american]{babel}
> >>>>>>>>>>> \usepackage{csquotes}
> >>>>>>>>>>> \usepackage[style=apa,backend=biber]{biblatex}
> >>>>>>>>>>> \addbibresource{<<File>>}
> >>>>>>>>>>> \pagestyle{empty}
> >>>>>>>>>>> \textwidth = 6.5in
> >>>>>>>>>>> \voffset = -105pt
> >>>>>>>>>>> \hoffset = -120pt
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> \begin{document}
> >>>>>>>>>>> \nocite{<<CiteKeys>>}
> >>>>>>>>>>> \printbibliography
> >>>>>>>>>>> \end{document}
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> However, this throws an error in the preview log:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Package biblatex Info: Trying to load bibliographic data...
> >>>>>>>>>>> Package biblatex Info: ... file 'bibpreview.bbl' not found.
> >>>>>>>>>>> No file bibpreview.bbl.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Any idea how to fix this?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you and best greetings,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Bertolt
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Prof. Dr. Bertolt Meyer
> >>>>>>>>>>> Professor for Work and Organizational Psychology
> >>>>>>>>>>> Vice Dean of Student Affairs, Institute of Psychology
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Speaker of the CRC 1410 „Hybrid Societies“
> >>>>>>>>>>> https://hybrid-societies.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Chemnitz University of Technology
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Wilhelm-Raabe-Str. 43
> >>>>>>>>>>> 09120 Chemnitz
> >>>>>>>>>>> Germany
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Tel. +49 371 531 30587
> >>>>>>>>>>> bertolt.me...@psychologie.tu-chemnitz.de
> >>>
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