Just for the record here are the release dates for each maintenance series.

9.0.0 2000-09-16 (one off - marked not for production)
9.1.0 2001-01-18 - 9.1.3 2001-07-03 (6 months)
9.2.0 2001-11-25 - 9.2.9 2007-09-25 (5 years 10 months)
9.3.0 2004-09-22 - 9.3.6 2008-11-19 (4 years 2 months)
9.4.0 2007-02-23 - 9.4.3 2008-11-19 - 9.4-ESV-R5 2011-08-01 (4 years 6 months)
9.5.0 2008-05-29 - 9.5.2 2009-09-23 (1 year 3 months)
9.6.0 2008-12-23 - 9.6.3 2011-02-04 - 9.6-ESV-R11 2014-01-31 (5 years 2 months)
9.7.0 2010-02-16 - 9.7.7 2012-10-09 (2 years 8 months)
9.8.0 2011-03-01 - 9.8.8 2014-09-29 (3 years 6 months)
9.9.0 2012-02-29 - 9.9.13 2018-07-11 (6 years 4 months, ESV)
9.10.0 2014-04-30 - 9.10.8 2018-07-11 (4 years 3 months)
9.11.0 2016-10-04 - 9.11.21 2020-07-15 (Current Stable, ESV)
9.12.0 2018-01-23 - 9.12.4 2019-03-01  (1 year 2 months)
9.13.0 2018-05-25 - 9.13.7 2019-02-27 (development)
9.14.0 2019-03-22 - 9.14.12 2020-05-19 (1 year 2 months)
9.15.0 2020-03-06 - 9.15.8 2020-01-22 (development)
9.16.0 2020-03-06 - 9.16.5 2020-07-15 (Current Stable, (should be future ESV))
9.17.0 2020-03-18 - 9.17.3 2020-07-15 (current development)

ESV = Extended Support Version

> On 21 Jul 2020, at 09:05, Mark Andrews <ma...@isc.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 21 Jul 2020, at 03:45, Ted Mittelstaedt <t...@ipinc.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/17/2020 11:35 AM, John W. Blue wrote:
>>> Speaking about things to be annoyed over ..
>>> 
>>> I am still ticked that FreeBSD dropped BIND from the distribution for 
>>> something called unwinding or whatever it is.
>>> 
>> 
>> I'm not happy that happened either but the simple fact is that if BIND would 
>> quit dropping support so fast for it's older versions that never would have 
>> happened.  The fundamental problem was that BIND dropped support for it's 
>> older versions before the distros dropped support for their distros.  This 
>> is happening with a lot of other software packages.
> 
> There where lots of things happening at the time.  There was misinformation 
> propagated to *BSD that BIND 9 going away much faster that any plans we had.  
> BIND 10 (now defunct) hadn’t even reached feature parity with BIND 9 which 
> was still being developed because the DNS protocol is still be developed.
> 
> As for support life times.  BIND 9.17 will load most BIND 8.0 configurations. 
>  Thats 20+ years of backwards compatibility.
> 
> Distributions also need to look at their own practices.  They ask us to 
> supply long term support but do not actually integrate the maintenance 
> releases but instead cherry-pick just the security fixes. Maintenance is not 
> just security fixes.  That means that we keep seeing bug reports that need to 
> be diagnosed about bugs we have fixed years ago.  That really isn’t a good 
> use of peoples time.  Not ours, not the distributions maintainers nor the 
> users time.  Is there little wonder that we stop producing bug fixes releases 
> for old version when the distributions don’t use them?
> 
>> When FreeBSD was used mostly for servers it wasn't a problem.  But more
>> and more people are using it for desktop use where they want to basically 
>> install it and forget about it, never run patches, never give
>> a fig about security.  Simpler programs like Unbound have less code
>> and so less things to go wrong, need less patches, and are easier to
>> support for a longer period of time so they get supported for a longer
>> period of time.  Also, Unbound's main purpose in life is as a caching
>> dns program.  Nobody who runs a server on FreeBSD uses Unbound.
>> 
>> Ted
>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: bind-users [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Ted 
>>> Mittelstaedt
>>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 12:57 PM
>>> To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
>>> Subject: Re: AW: Debian/Ubuntu: Why was the service renamed from bind9 to 
>>> named?
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Your personal experience is not the gobal truth. It is your opinion but 
>>>> other experienced pepole see it different than you.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hmm I'm a bit late to this discussion but I will chime in with the others.  
>>> The service always was called "named"  pronounced "name Dee"
>>> it was called that in the Nutshell book which is easily the authoritative 
>>> book on the subject, it was called this before you were born and it was 
>>> kind of the height of hubris for it to ever be named
>>> bind9 in a software distro.
>>> 
>>> In fact, the ONLY reason that the name "bind9" was ever even coined at all 
>>> was because the changes from bind8 both in the syntax of the config file 
>>> and how the program operated they wanted to boot admins in the behind to 
>>> get them to change their config files.  It should have been put to bed as a 
>>> name a long time ago, or named "bind version 9" like every other software 
>>> program does with their versions.
>>> 
>>> So as an experienced person who has been doing this you-nuxs thing since
>>> 1982 - I DON'T see it different - and in fact, I see it as a RETURN to what 
>>> it originally was!
>>> 
>>> Ted
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