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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Colostrum question (Lorean Tadlock)
2. Re: Colostrum question (j...@netzero.net)
3. Albinism~ (Jules Pizz)
4. Re: Colostrum question (Lorean Tadlock)
5. Re: Albinism~ (The Wintermutes)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:27:39 -0600 (CST)
From: "Lorean Tadlock" <jlt...@skytex.net>
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Colostrum question
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Hi Barbara,
We tried all those nipples as well and found that our took to a baby
bottle with in a day or two. None of ours ever bit the ends off, they did
try though.
Lorean
I had to force feed ours by prying their mouth open and holding their
head
still (on my lap). This went on for a week or more. The only nipples
they liked were the yellow and red ones and it was quite a chore to
change
them over to the Jeffers nipples after they became too strong and chewed
he yellow and red ones to bits.
It was Carol who gave me the advice to put some honey in the sheep milk
replacer but I still had to force them at every feeding. Ironically,
twice when I left them with men for a couple of hours they were eagerly
taking to the bottle when I returned.
The tiny Boar (two died) I saved was very picky and liked a mix with
buttermilk in it.
Aloha a hui hou kaua!
(Goodbye until we meet again)
Barbara Heavens
POB 1869, Kea`au, Hawaii 96749
(808) 968-0814
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:23:13 GMT
From: "j...@netzero.net" <j...@netzero.net>
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Colostrum question
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That's interesting to know because I tried the baby bottles and it seemed
the rippled part they really could suck with was further back in their
mouth than the baby nipple would reach. I also liked the way the nipples
screwed onto a water bottle since ours drank about 12 oz every 2 hours.
This was a lot more than the prescibed amount but they always finished the
bottle and were crying for more in 2 hours. They're big and healthy now so
I guess it was OK.
I sent for a shipment of nipples from Jeffers with the feeding tubes just
to have on hand since Hilo town can have a "Nipple crisis" at any time.
On another note my ewe refuses to go into the yard with our bossy horned
goat (doe). They're now in seperate pastures but nobody seems happy
especially little bottle fed Harry (goat) who grew up with them. I just
brought in a ram and I'm wondering if she's just protecting herself and
possible lambs. This goat is awful and as soon as she kids we'll be
trading her off.
Aloha a hui hou kaua!
(Goodbye until we meet again)
Barbara Heavens
POB 1869, Kea`au, Hawaii 96749
(808) 968-0814
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:26:01 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
From: "Jules Pizz" <ju...@foreverpugged.com>
Subject: [Blackbelly] Albinism~
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Hello good list~I have a lamb (ram and a twin with one sister) that I
THINK
may be an albino. I have been trying to Google and find out all I can
about
Albinism and have not had much luck finding much of any useful information
on Albinism of any kind~let alone sheep. My sheep are predominantly Black
Belly but I have one purebred Polypay ewe and have several crossbreeds
between her offspring and herself with the Black Belly sheep. This lamb is
from a half BB and Polypay breeding mother and a Black Belly/Poly cross
ram.
Have any of you had any experience with or knowledge of albinism? I
thought
that with a true albino the eyes have to be pink/red. I am having a hard
time seeing what color this boy`s eyes truly are as he is skittish with a
skittish mother and he is only 2 and a half weeks old so I didn`t want to
upset momma or babes any more than absolutely necessary. I THINK his eyes
are blue but I am not positive... Thank you in advance~and I am going to
get updated pics taken soon for any interested. Julie Pizzolato in North
Idaho
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:46:17 -0600 (CST)
From: "Lorean Tadlock" <jlt...@skytex.net>
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Colostrum question
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We have one ram right now that is being bottle feed (Babe). His mother is
the best sociable one we have but she will never feed both lambs, she
always rejects one of them. But Babe is about a week old now and he is
only drinking about 4 oz. every 3 hours. After see how much your drink, is
that not enough. We can't get him to drink anymore than that at a time.
We have two other of her that we have bottle feed in the past one ewe
(Faith) and one ram (Bustard Brown) with we had castrated. we have had
some tell us to get rid of her but we just love her, so we just keep her.
But this set of lambs will be her last for sure.
Lorean
That's interesting to know because I tried the baby bottles and it seemed
the rippled part they really could suck with was further back in their
mouth than the baby nipple would reach. I also liked the way the nipples
screwed onto a water bottle since ours drank about 12 oz every 2 hours.
This was a lot more than the prescibed amount but they always finished
the
bottle and were crying for more in 2 hours. They're big and healthy now
so
I guess it was OK.
I sent for a shipment of nipples from Jeffers with the feeding tubes just
to have on hand since Hilo town can have a "Nipple crisis" at any time.
On another note my ewe refuses to go into the yard with our bossy horned
goat (doe). They're now in seperate pastures but nobody seems happy
especially little bottle fed Harry (goat) who grew up with them. I just
brought in a ram and I'm wondering if she's just protecting herself and
possible lambs. This goat is awful and as soon as she kids we'll be
trading her off.
Aloha a hui hou kaua!
(Goodbye until we meet again)
Barbara Heavens
POB 1869, Kea`au, Hawaii 96749
(808) 968-0814
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:02:10 -0600
From: "The Wintermutes" <winterm...@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Albinism~
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I have had similar crosses in my sheep. What makes you suspect albinism
over just a white sheep? All of my polypay/Barbados blackbelly were
white.
Eye color can be tricky in a young lamb. If the eyes are blue I am
guessing
you might truly have an albino.
Mark W.
Subject: [Blackbelly] Albinism~
Hello good list~I have a lamb (ram and a twin with one sister) that I
THINK
may be an albino. I have been trying to Google and find out all I can
about
Albinism and have not had much luck finding much of any useful information
on Albinism of any kind~let alone sheep. My sheep are predominantly Black
Belly but I have one purebred Polypay ewe and have several crossbreeds
between her offspring and herself with the Black Belly sheep. This lamb is
from a half BB and Polypay breeding mother and a Black Belly/Poly cross
ram.
Have any of you had any experience with or knowledge of albinism? I
thought
that with a true albino the eyes have to be pink/red. I am having a hard
time seeing what color this boy`s eyes truly are as he is skittish with a
skittish mother and he is only 2 and a half weeks old so I didn`t want to
upset momma or babes any more than absolutely necessary. I THINK his eyes
are blue but I am not positive... Thank you in advance~and I am going to
get updated pics taken soon for any interested. Julie Pizzolato in North
Idaho
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