I have steel siding as well but my rams have not bothered with the walls nor the supports in my barn...they have several oak & eucalyptus trees to smash into and I added some large exercise balls in the pasture as the love to "fight" them. Cheap plastic trash cans keep them entertained as well. If they have stuff like that maybe they will leave your barn alone. I also got a giant street sweeper brush and they are always rubbing their heads on it.
-----Original Message----- From: Blackbelly [mailto:blackbelly-boun...@lists.blackbellysheep.info] On Behalf Of blackbelly-requ...@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 3:03 PM To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Blackbelly Digest, Vol 10, Issue 60 Send Blackbelly mailing list submissions to blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.in fo or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to blackbelly-requ...@lists.blackbellysheep.info You can reach the person managing the list at blackbelly-ow...@lists.blackbellysheep.info When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Blackbelly digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Barn siding/building material (Rick Krach) 2. Re: Barn siding/building material (Mark Wintermute) 3. Re: Barn siding/building material (Nancy Johnson) 4. Re: Barn siding/building material (mtnrdgr...@aol.com) 5. ABB rams (mtnrdgr...@aol.com) 6. Re: Barn siding/building material (David Sussman) 7. Re: ABB rams (Carol J. Elkins) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 22:17:20 -0700 From: Rick Krach <rickkr...@hotmail.com> To: blackbelly Blackbelly List <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info> Subject: [Blackbelly] Barn siding/building material Message-ID: <bay175-w1d920184ef65ceb74ec2aaf...@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" David, I have corrugated steel siding on my current, antique barn and it is all smashed in. ?I have no steel rails, however. ?Nearly 100% of all barns are made of wood; I've never seen anything else, and that's why I'm asking what most of you do about rams butting into your walls and wearing them down. ?Any more suggestions? ?I can imagine the lower 3 feet made with cement blocks, but I don't think that'll look good and I've seen no barns like that either. ?My barn was originally build with the beautiful, inch thick barn-wood planks which were replaced with corrugated steel as they wore out. ?Now the steel panels are smashed, too. Rick Krach in Auburn, CA > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 20:24:17 -0700 > From: Rick Krach <rickkr...@hotmail.com> > To: blackbelly Blackbelly List <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info> > Subject: [Blackbelly] barn siding/building material > Message-ID: <bay175-w1244e266a9b72861f57f65af...@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I'm beginning the process of refurbishing a 70 year old barn whose walls have been destroyed in recent years by my American Blackbelly rams. ?I need to know what kind of material, wall thickness, and building construction has worked for the others of you for your barns? ?All my sheep, 6 adults (1ram) and each year's lambs live in this barn during cold and rainy times.? > > > Rick Krach > in Auburn, CA? > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 23:39:37 -0400 > From: David Sussman <david.gadog...@gmail.com> > To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] barn siding/building material > Message-ID: > <cagqr2qpzr05raxeyftrqdyxlcndfoiee+t4xoeodhdgb8hs...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Steel siding on 2" steel rails works for us... > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 06:47:24 -0500 From: "Mark Wintermute" <winterm...@earthlink.net> To: <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info> Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Barn siding/building material Message-ID: <000c01cfc123$81a3b740$84eb25c0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Rick, I raise polled Barbados Blackbelly so I do not deal with horns but here is some information you might be able to use. The damage I sustain is from rams fighting with a fence or barrier between them during mating time. I have had your standard tube gate with wire mesh attached to it flattened from the rams. I have had panels made out of 1 inch solid steel top and bottom with 1/2" solid steel verticals every 2.5" bent into a bow from impacts (the ram really was not very big either)! I have had "T" posts sheared off at the bottom from impacts. If I were to make my dream barn I would have concrete walls poured up from the foundation the first 3 feet. After that it is up to your preference on barn construction. Concrete is expensive though so you might consider just running a strand of electric fence to protect your barn. On the inside of your barn run a grounded wire parallel to the hot wire close enough that the sheep will make contact with both wires. If you are in a dry environment do the same on the outside of your barn. You probably have a good idea of the height the rams hit at which is probably taller than the newborn lambs. My only other suggestion is to get them something they enjoy hitting more than your barn. Something that makes a good "BANG" when hit. Might be fun to make a big steel gong! Mark Wintermute Subject: [Blackbelly] Barn siding/building material David, I have corrugated steel siding on my current, antique barn and it is all smashed in. ?I have no steel rails, however. ?Nearly 100% of all barns are made of wood; I've never seen anything else, and that's why I'm asking what most of you do about rams butting into your walls and wearing them down. ?Any more suggestions? ?I can imagine the lower 3 feet made with cement blocks, but I don't think that'll look good and I've seen no barns like that either. ?My barn was originally build with the beautiful, inch thick barn-wood planks which were replaced with corrugated steel as they wore out. ?Now the steel panels are smashed, too. Rick Krach in Auburn, CA ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 08:07:20 -0400 From: Nancy Johnson <imgr8a...@comcast.net> To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Barn siding/building material Message-ID: <243232ff-b981-472b-a53d-e0a179f33...@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 This works for horses, so I'm guessing it would work for rams. In the horse world, if you have a horse that likes to kick his stall and destroy it, you mount plexiglass to the inside of the stall and it basically saves your barn. On Aug 26, 2014, at 1:17 AM, Rick Krach wrote: > David, I have corrugated steel siding on my current, antique barn and it is all smashed in. I have no steel rails, however. Nearly 100% of all barns are made of wood; I've never seen anything else, and that's why I'm asking what most of you do about rams butting into your walls and wearing them down. Any more suggestions? I can imagine the lower 3 feet made with cement blocks, but I don't think that'll look good and I've seen no barns like that either. My barn was originally build with the beautiful, inch thick barn-wood planks which were replaced with corrugated steel as they wore out. Now the steel panels are smashed, too. > > > > Rick Krach > in Auburn, CA > > > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 20:24:17 -0700 >> From: Rick Krach <rickkr...@hotmail.com> >> To: blackbelly Blackbelly List >> <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info> >> Subject: [Blackbelly] barn siding/building material >> Message-ID: <bay175-w1244e266a9b72861f57f65af...@phx.gbl> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> I'm beginning the process of refurbishing a 70 year old barn whose walls have been destroyed in recent years by my American Blackbelly rams. ?I need to know what kind of material, wall thickness, and building construction has worked for the others of you for your barns? ?All my sheep, 6 adults (1ram) and each year's lambs live in this barn during cold and rainy times.? >> >> >> Rick Krach >> in Auburn, CA? >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 23:39:37 -0400 >> From: David Sussman <david.gadog...@gmail.com> >> To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info >> Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] barn siding/building material >> Message-ID: >> <cagqr2qpzr05raxeyftrqdyxlcndfoiee+t4xoeodhdgb8hs...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Steel siding on 2" steel rails works for us... >> > > > _______________________________________________ > This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's > homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 09:36:08 -0400 (EDT) From: mtnrdgr...@aol.com To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Barn siding/building material Message-ID: <8d18f49d416e7bb-1a14-2f...@webmail-vm065.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed My barns are the prefab metal over plywood. They hold up fine to the mashing. They do however, mar it so I put up plywood panels on the lower half. They have a little give as they are attached to the frame and stick out from the wall itself a quarter inch. I find this very satisfactory. My one barn that is corrugated on the outside is going to get smashed so I put goat panels along the outside to keep them off the metal itself. Best Wishes, Jann Mountain Ridge Ranch and KayaKyi Kennels American Blackbelly Sheep Tibetan Mastiffs PBGVs and GBGVs mrr.mysite.com https://www.facebook.com/KayakyiPBGVsAndGBGVs AKC Breeder of Merit -----Original Message----- From: Rick Krach <rickkr...@hotmail.com> To: blackbelly Blackbelly List <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info> Sent: Mon, Aug 25, 2014 11:17 pm Subject: [Blackbelly] Barn siding/building material David, I have corrugated steel siding on my current, antique barn and it is all smashed in. ?I have no steel rails, however. ?Nearly 100% of all barns are made of wood; I've never seen anything else, and that's why I'm asking what most of you do about rams butting into your walls and wearing them down. ?Any more suggestions? ?I can imagine the lower 3 feet made with cement blocks, but I don't think that'll look good and I've seen no barns like that either. ?My barn was originally build with the beautiful, inch thick barn-wood planks which were replaced with corrugated steel as they wore out. ?Now the steel panels are smashed, too. Rick Krach in Auburn, CA > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 20:24:17 -0700 > From: Rick Krach <rickkr...@hotmail.com> > To: blackbelly Blackbelly List <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info> > Subject: [Blackbelly] barn siding/building material > Message-ID: <bay175-w1244e266a9b72861f57f65af...@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I'm beginning the process of refurbishing a 70 year old barn whose walls have been destroyed in recent years by my American Blackbelly rams. ?I need to know what kind of material, wall thickness, and building construction has worked for the others of you for your barns? ?All my sheep, 6 adults (1ram) and each year's lambs live in this barn during cold and rainy times.? > > > Rick Krach > in Auburn, CA? > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 23:39:37 -0400 > From: David Sussman <david.gadog...@gmail.com> > To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] barn siding/building material > Message-ID: > <cagqr2qpzr05raxeyftrqdyxlcndfoiee+t4xoeodhdgb8hs...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Steel siding on 2" steel rails works for us... > _______________________________________________ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 09:38:04 -0400 (EDT) From: mtnrdgr...@aol.com To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: [Blackbelly] ABB rams Message-ID: <8d18f4a18e8081b-1a14-2f...@webmail-vm065.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Hi all, I"m not sure if we can post this kind of message here, so if not, I apologize. I have two very nice, well bred, registered ABB rams that I would like to sell or trade for an unrelated ram (one on one). If anyone is interested please email me privately. Best Wishes, Jann Mountain Ridge Ranch and KayaKyi Kennels American Blackbelly Sheep Tibetan Mastiffs PBGVs and GBGVs mrr.mysite.com https://www.facebook.com/KayakyiPBGVsAndGBGVs AKC Breeder of Merit -----Original Message----- From: Rick Krach <rickkr...@hotmail.com> To: blackbelly Blackbelly List <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info> Sent: Mon, Aug 25, 2014 11:17 pm Subject: [Blackbelly] Barn siding/building material David, I have corrugated steel siding on my current, antique barn and it is all smashed in. ?I have no steel rails, however. ?Nearly 100% of all barns are made of wood; I've never seen anything else, and that's why I'm asking what most of you do about rams butting into your walls and wearing them down. ?Any more suggestions? ?I can imagine the lower 3 feet made with cement blocks, but I don't think that'll look good and I've seen no barns like that either. ?My barn was originally build with the beautiful, inch thick barn-wood planks which were replaced with corrugated steel as they wore out. ?Now the steel panels are smashed, too. Rick Krach in Auburn, CA > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 20:24:17 -0700 > From: Rick Krach <rickkr...@hotmail.com> > To: blackbelly Blackbelly List <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info> > Subject: [Blackbelly] barn siding/building material > Message-ID: <bay175-w1244e266a9b72861f57f65af...@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I'm beginning the process of refurbishing a 70 year old barn whose walls have been destroyed in recent years by my American Blackbelly rams. ?I need to know what kind of material, wall thickness, and building construction has worked for the others of you for your barns? ?All my sheep, 6 adults (1ram) and each year's lambs live in this barn during cold and rainy times.? > > > Rick Krach > in Auburn, CA? > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 23:39:37 -0400 > From: David Sussman <david.gadog...@gmail.com> > To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] barn siding/building material > Message-ID: > <cagqr2qpzr05raxeyftrqdyxlcndfoiee+t4xoeodhdgb8hs...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Steel siding on 2" steel rails works for us... > _______________________________________________ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 00:28:21 -0500 From: David Sussman <david.gadog...@gmail.com> To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Barn siding/building material Message-ID: <CAGqr2qr1hp7ZGSVGgAzRze=vuWijYS3M+x7BxN_-=yfagty...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Rick, Our sheep barn is 2 years old. The heavy corrugated steel siding is screwed to the inside of a 2" steel pipe frame. We have one big ram and he has not damaged it much. Maybe if we had more rams like him we'd experience more damage like you have... David On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 12:17 AM, Rick Krach <rickkr...@hotmail.com> wrote: > David, I have corrugated steel siding on my current, antique barn and > it is all smashed in. I have no steel rails, however. Nearly 100% of > all barns are made of wood; I've never seen anything else, and that's > why I'm asking what most of you do about rams butting into your walls > and wearing them down. Any more suggestions? I can imagine the lower > 3 feet made with cement blocks, but I don't think that'll look good > and I've seen no barns like that either. My barn was originally build > with the beautiful, inch thick barn-wood planks which were replaced > with corrugated steel as they wore out. Now the steel panels are smashed, too. > > > > Rick Krach > in Auburn, CA > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 20:24:17 -0700 > > From: Rick Krach <rickkr...@hotmail.com> > > To: blackbelly Blackbelly List > > <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info> > > Subject: [Blackbelly] barn siding/building material > > Message-ID: <bay175-w1244e266a9b72861f57f65af...@phx.gbl> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > I'm beginning the process of refurbishing a 70 year old barn whose > > walls > have been destroyed in recent years by my American Blackbelly rams. ?I > need to know what kind of material, wall thickness, and building > construction has worked for the others of you for your barns? ?All my > sheep, 6 adults > (1ram) and each year's lambs live in this barn during cold and rainy times.? > > > > > > Rick Krach > > in Auburn, CA? > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 23:39:37 -0400 > > From: David Sussman <david.gadog...@gmail.com> > > To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > > Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] barn siding/building material > > Message-ID: > > <cagqr2qpzr05raxeyftrqdyxlcndfoiee+t4xoeodhdgb8hs...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > Steel siding on 2" steel rails works for us... > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's > homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 11:30:06 -0600 From: "Carol J. Elkins" <celk...@awrittenword.com> To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] ABB rams Message-ID: <20140826173001.18ad248...@diego.dreamhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hey Jan, This is a perfect place to post for sale and wanted announcements. Also, because you are a BBSAI member, you can post an ad on BBSAI's classifieds page at http://www.blackbellysheep.org/classifieds/ Carol At 07:38 AM 8/26/2014, you wrote: >Hi all, > >I"m not sure if we can post this kind of message here, so if not, I >apologize. I have two very nice, well bred, registered ABB rams that I >would like to sell or trade for an unrelated ram (one on one). If >anyone is interested please email me privately. > >Best Wishes, >Jann ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ This daily digest is from the Blackbelly mailing list. 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