Actually no I hadn't. I know there are some special methods/apps out there
to use instead of digging  around one's control panel error logs to find out
why it crashes, that kind of tells me it's time to move away from it if
they're making it easier for people to find out why it crashes. I simply
don't' have time to hunt down those things unless there is no other option.

It mostly crashes when logging into my suppliers site to order product which
runs a portal. I've disabled everything that can be. I'm running IE10.x, Win
7 64-bit, and JFW 14. I'm finding Chrome to be much more responsive, more
straightforward in settings, and I hope stable. 

If I were you, I'd not change your settings loll. Actually, I really suspect
Jaws 14 as it has crashed and locked up many times with IE. Not happy with
the updates to 14 at all. Actually JFW 13 has crashed using IE 10 too. They
need to share the sandbox and play nice, but not happening I guess. 

Brad

From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 1:26 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Google Chrome question

interesting, have you thought about finding out why I.E. is crashing so
frequently? it doesn't here

I.E. 9, windows 7 64 bit, and jaws 13, 

a good many of us have run the I.E. fix file available from microsoft, have
you tried that yet? I locked up one time, ran the file and have been fine
since.

I also am not having a lot of trouble other than my usual "it responds
slowly on this computer" note with firefox, although I must qualify that I
am using version 14 and do not plan to change that for a while (auto-update
is turned off). 

hope this may help
inthane
-----Original Message-----
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Brad Dunse
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:11 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Google Chrome question

Thanks for your reply. Part of the problem though of running older browsers
is vulnerability to security issues. My last computer found its death by
nasties that got in, not necessarily form a browser security hole. At any
rate I'm not too in favor of leaving any holes if possible, even at the cost
of some accessibility.

Firefox works "some of the time" without hanging, but it's unpredictable. I
could try looking to see if I missed removing any add-ons  other than my
security software add-ons and see if that helps. I actually used Chrome
today to finish placing my on-line business orders and it ran flawlessly ;D.
Very responsive and stable. Explorer crashed no less than 5-times in a half
an hour. I use to swear by Firefox, my wife too. She was directed by the IT
department at work to use Chrome as it is the most secure and stable at this
point. Granted she is sighted, but I know there are folks using screen
readers with Chrome, apparently successfully.

Thanks,

Brad



Brad Dunse

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-----Original Message-----
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:46 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Google Chrome question

I think Internet Explorer 8 is OK on a Windows 7 PC, occasional crashes but
OK. Firefox is not bad either. Would not recommend Chrome.

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India
"Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going." ~ Jim
Rohn

-----Original Message-----
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Brad Dunse
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:07 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Google Chrome question

I really would like to dump Firefox and Explorer, the former locking up most
times on the initial launch and the latter crashing continually despite most
add-ons disabled. Using Jaws 14.x and Windows 7, is there a way to get Jaws
to read the screen using a Jaws cursor in Google Chrome? I had the same
issue with Firefox, but it's pretty much history for me at least until bugs
are worked out, so I don't much care at the moment. Any help on Chrome
tweaks or tips are greatly appreciated.

Brad Dunse

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etc. They're worth a gift that's as uniquely individual as they are.

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Custom Song Gift written for their loved ones! 

-----Original Message-----
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of DoubleLegal
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 3:54 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] help getting thru drop down select boxes

Hi Mike,

Actually I have no problems opening and closing a drop down list box. My 
problem is that a lot of code is written so that as soon as you move down 
with the arrow key, it makes that first selection your choice automatically 
and sends you off to whatever that choice is.

I would like to go up and down through those lists without it making a 
selection automatically so I can see all of the choices before selecting one

on my own.

Thanks,

Ken

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike B." <mb69ma...@charter.net>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] help getting thru drop down select boxes


> Hi Ken,
>
> Alt + up arrow to open & Alt + down arrow to hold your selection / close.
> HTH
> Take care.
> Mike
> This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: DoubleLegal
> To: Blind Computer Users
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 5:15 AM
> Subject: [Blind-Computing] help getting thru drop down select boxes
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I used to know how to do this with a certain keystroke but have forgotten
> how.
>
> I have older versions of JAWS so this may not be a problem for newer JAWS
> versions, but how do I go thru the selections in a drop down list without 
> it
> automatically selecting and sending me to the very first item in the list?
>
> I use either JAWS 8 or JAWS 10 and Windows XP Pro.
>
> Thanks for any and all help.
>
> Ken Hopkins
> doublele...@comcast.net
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