While I have only done a couple of fabrications and that, a long time ago I 
do have a friend who used to make caps and campers for mounting on the back 
of pickup trucks in a modest commercial fabrication plant.

You make either a negative or a positive mold and it doesn't much matter 
which. If you will have difficulty getting it into place you will probably 
want to make it in two parts, this gets a little more tricky.

I am guessing you will want the finish surface to be on the inside?

Usually they will use almost anything to get the shape and contour wanted. I 
suggest Styrofoam and maybe plywood, probably quarter inch stuff .

Line the inside of the area where you want to form the glass fiber with 
Styrofoam panels, cut, grind, what ever you need to do to form the shape. If 
all voids don't need filling, maybe a space in the floor or something then 
just bridge it with the rigid foam. You can glue reinforcing pieces to brace 
and hold the shape and you will probably want to fabricate some plywood or 
other sturdier members to further brace and reinforce the inside of this 
positive mold.

Once satisfied, you remove the mold and refine it with files, rasps, what 
ever is appropriate.

Now you apply what ever texture you may want. If it is a very smooth texture 
you may wish to apply thin plaster if the form is rigid enough or melt and 
apply paraffin wax over the form with which you can fill in any voids or 
rough texture on the foam. What ever the case you will have to protect the 
foam as the polyester resin will dissolve it. There are grades of foam 
apparently which are resistant but I have never found it. This preparation 
stage cannot be too carefully done. Wax is pretty good material because it 
can be rubbed and smoothed and even massaged with warm hands to get very 
precise textures if necessary and it will, albeit with some effort, break 
away from the shell when done.

Remember that you will have to get the mold out of the shell so pay some 
attention to the shape. The quality of the finish here will be very exactly 
duplicated on the finished surface.

When satisfied, you apply gel coat, probably a couple of layers.

Where you have irregular shapes or rounded corners I really prefer to use 
random mat glass. You stretch it and pull it into shape. The woven sheet or 
tape will not conform well, needs to be tucked and folded and cut and all 
sorts and in the end is heavier and actually not as strong as random mat. It 
does perform well along edges or where things are nice and flat and square 
and might be useful for reinforcement but even there, random mat cut in 
strips and folded will do very nicely too.

So, you lay out your mat or your fabric over the gel and roll the resin to 
it. You want to thoroughly saturate the glass be it fabric or mat. I like to 
use those two or three inch 'J' paint rollers, they make it reasonably easy 
for a blind man to roll on loads of resin. I also like to use those plastic 
margarine tubs to mix up the resin and hardener, fairly easy to hold if you 
must, fit the roller and no loss to throw away. Same with the rollers, just 
toss them. If there is a way to clean up after that stuff I don't know it. 
The resin will hold to the finish gel coat provided the mat is well 
saturated. You don't require a gel coat but you won't get a nice finish 
without it.

You can lay on as much glass and resin pretty well as you want. If things go 
a little wrong a belt sander, axe and chisel are about the sophistication of 
tools you need. You can partially fold strips of mat or tape to form sort of 
hollow triangular cross section tubes and resin them down and permeate them 
to form reinforcing like adding channel iron, you can stick wood or steel 
reinforcement including steel brackets for bolting down. It is very 
malleable stuff a bitch to clean up after.

Make sure hair is secured and impossible to get stuck into the work, I 
suggest long sleeves which you don't ever have to be clean ever again, you 
will want gloves but not acrylic, the tips will disappear. Work in good 
ventilation. Unless it is cold, go careful on the catalyst. It will set up 
too quickly and get pretty hot, can even combust although in cold conditions 
a little extra will help set it up in more reasonable time.

You can include colour directly in the resin and this is a good way to keep 
the product looking good.

Commercial molds you can rent for making things like canoes can be rented. 
Here too, the secret to a good outcome is layers and layers of wax well 
buffed and polished. Breaking out of the mold is usually tough, getting a 
little air between the product and the mold so they will separate.

Commercially they don't usually use fabric or mat but a sprayer which sprays 
the resin and chops glass fiber rope into the stream applied to the mold. 
They do begin with a gel coat though then spray over it to the desired 
thickness. They may do it in stages, for example the top half of a boat 
shell will often have a baffle of wood formed into it part way down to 
stiffen it, this will be inserted then more spray applied to stick it 
thoroughly into the structure.

Give this some thought and knock it about a bit and you should be able to 
come up with a solution. This is a big container you are making. work it out 
thoroughly before you begin.

The resin doesn't dry by evaporation, it sets up by chemical reaction. once 
it begins to go off, it happens pretty fast. Usually you only need a few 
drops of catalyst per quart of resin depending on the formulation of the 
particular product and that can be a little tricky for the blind, well me 
anyway, a small syringe or eye dropper might help here. If you work to a wet 
edge you can stop and mix up more and continue so long as you have worked 
the resin well into the fabric. It won't penetrate through already set resin 
and you don't want voids in the finished product.

I can't think of anything more just now, hope this helps.



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> Hi Guys,
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> Since you all did such a good job on cutting the whole in my hood, I'm
> going to become a real research pain in the 32nd Vertebrae
> I need to build a fiberglass inclosure approximately 28 inches deep 24
> inches high and 6&1/2 feet wide. This inclosure will fit behind the front
> seats of my El Casino to house batteries, engine management electronics,
> the air compressor for my air ride suspension, on board fire suppression
> system and miscellaneous equipment.
> The area to be utilized is by no means square and plumb so what ever
> molding material I use will need to be malleable enough to compensate for 
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> variety of angles and irregularities.
> I got an estimate of $1200.00 to have it custom built but I think I can do
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