Hi Dale,
What I'm trying to do is extend the latching part of a piece of siding to give the piece of siding above it a little more lip to grip onto. I decided to build the extension from nylon because I figured nylon would hold up in a variety of weather and had reasonable strength for the job. The problem I'm having is that I can't find a glue that will bond nylon to itself. Two pieces of nylon need to be glued together to build the extension and the extension then needs to be bonded to the siding. The first thing I looked at was moving some of the siding up or down to take up the slack in the one piece. Unfortunately. Two or three pieces below and two or three pieces above would need to be moved to accomplish the task. As I said in an earlier note, moving that much siding is far beyond my talents and that's why I'm trying to build some sort of clip. As far as silicone, I don't think it's practical in this situation. In one spot, the existing lip needs to be extended about a quarter of an inch. I think trying to use silicone for the purpose would just create a real mess. Your idea, though, does give me a thought. I'm going to try bonding a piece of nylon to a piece of vinyl siding with silicone. If it works, my design can be modified so that I can solve the problem by sticking a piece of nylon to the siding and eliminate the need for bonding nylon to itself. Worth a shot. There is no particular reason to pursue a solution using nylon other than I've invested a chunk of change in the material and I'd like to use it if I can. As I said in an earlier post, I am looking into other materials and their gluing characteristics. Take care, Ed Przybylek From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 4:55 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Gluing Nylon I haven't been following the nylon glue issue so I don't understand what nylon has to do with this, the siding will be vinyl or aluminum won't it? Might one solution be a strip of something, maybe thin aluminum or shaped thin hardwood sized and formed to fit under the catch and over the lip of the offending piece? The siding is usually loosely nailed so it can expand and contract with changing temperature. Might it be possible to lower the bottom piece by sliding it down a touch and raise the upper piece a touch and engage the channels that way? Finally, I am a real fan of silicone calking as an adhesive. Might you cut a really small hole in the tip of a tube of silicone calking, get it up under the edge of the upper piece and apply a dab or two at intervals. If you hold the lower edge down a bit with a hook then press the bottom hard against the piece below and allow the hooked edge to rise again might you be able to get a bit of goo between the lip and the hook above? Pick a calm day so it has a chance to bond before the wind begins pulling on it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Edward Przybylek To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:34 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Gluing Nylon Hi, That's the problem. There is a piece of siding that's not latched to the piece below it for about half its length. If I move the offending piece up enough to latch it to the piece below it, then the next piece up will no longer latch to the one that was moved up. Given this situation, each piece of siding will need to be moved up until the top of the wall is reached. This means moving up all the siding on a wall that's about 30 feet wide and 30 high. I don't have the skills to do the job and I'd rather not pay to have it done if a simple fix on the offending piece is possible. I'm trying to come up with a fix that would extend the lip on the piece below the problem piece so that the loose piece will have more lip to latch onto. I'm sure that's all clear as mud but that's the problem. I think the clip I'm trying to fabricate will work but I need to get the right materials and a glue that will bond the material to itself as well as to the existing siding. A mechanical solution such as screws or pop rivets would work but there's not enough room and it would cause the siding to buldge in one or two places. Right now the loose piece is taped in place with silver duct tape so the wind doesn't blow it around too much. I'll work on the problem a little longer but if I don't get too far, it'll be time to call in the professionals. Let everyone know how it goes. This has become personal. Take care, Ed Przybylek From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of NLG Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 4:34 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Gluing Nylon What exactly is wrong with your siding? If it is just coming apart and there isn't any seperation of the locking channel, it would be easier to get a unzipping tool to loosen the siding, pull the nails, move them up a fraction of an inch, and then rezip the siding. ----- Original Message ----- From: Edward Przybylek To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 3:02 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Gluing Nylon Hi Tom, I'm beginning to think you're right. More and more, it's beginning to look like a mechanical solution (screws, pop rivets, etc.) will be a better solution. Any information your technician might provide, though, may still prove helpful. Thanks. Take care, Ed From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Tom Fowle Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 1:35 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Gluing Nylon Ed, That's a huge set of specs, I doubt there is anything. sounds to me like the fix is going to be more trouble than just replacing the siding, but then I'm not there. I'll ask. Tom [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]