LOL! I love it!  I hope the guy talk isn't off topic but I do enjoy hearing 
other peoples stories because we all have a few to swap.

Alan

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Kennedy" <inthes...@att.net>
To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Tacumseh engine carbeurator question


> Weren't those the best?  Even pushing the little piece of junk on to the 
> plug terminal would still get you a share of voltage.  I kept a piece of 
> wood I shaped to fit in there and that insulated me.  Only took a few 
> tries.  That was after a friend gave me a pair of "electricians gloves." 
> They were supposed to be insulated against shock.  They must have had a 
> hole in them somewhere because the first time I used them I got blasted.
>
> Fortunately now those are tricks you remember and pass on in any small 
> engine classes.  "Here hold this while I check the spark."
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: William Stephan
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 4:45 PM
>  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Tacumseh engine carbeurator question
>
>
>
>  Bob: speaking of getting blasted, I remember that a lot of the Briggs
>  engines had to be turned off by flipping a little leaver against the 
> spark
>  plug. I could never remember whether the leaver was to the right or left 
> of
>  the plug, and almost invariably grabbed the spark plug and got a good 
> zap.
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
>  On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
>  Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 14:53
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Tacumseh engine carbeurator question
>
>  Oh boy! The Fairbanks Morris magneto! What a blast they could give you.
>
>  I became authorized service for each of the companies you mentioned in 
> 76.
>
>  The Kohlers were so quiet because everything they made back then was cast
>  iron. They are related to the same people that make the bath tubs and 
> sinks
>  and faucets.
>
>  When you went to tech school back then they knew the updates on engines 
> were
>  boring so they would show a slide of some lady in one of their bath tubs.
>  That brought the class to attention...
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: William Stephan
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>  Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 3:39 PM
>  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Tacumseh engine carbeurator question
>
>  Great story Alan, thanks for posting it. Back in the day, 1970s or so, I
>  ran a business with a tool rental component. We had a mix of engines, 
> B&S,
>  Koehler and Wisconsin for the most part in the air-cooled department 
> anyway.
>  The B&S engines were forever being replaced, and were twice as loud as 
> the
>  Koehlers were. The Wisconsins we had had a spring magneto in them, and if
>  memory serves, some of the mechanics cursed them mightily. The Koehlers
>  though, were quiet, and the guys that worked for me really enjoyed 
> working
>  on them. The Koehlers also seemed to require way less repair/replacement
>  than the Briggs did.
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>  [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]
>  On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli
>  Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 09:43
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Tacumseh engine carbeurator question
>
>  I never liked B&S and the rest of the American engines. Not a baring or a
>  bushing in there. Just a hardened steal crankshaft rubbing against an
>  aluminum block. How the hell long do you think that's 'gonna last. Now 
> you
>  know why those things are going away. The bright-boys figured themselves
>  right out of business.
>
>  When I went through the course, it cost around 40 bucks to get a small
>  engine tuned up. You had 5 dollars worth of parts into it so you did 
> about
>  an hours work if you wanted to do the thing right and walked away with 
> $35
>  for your trouble. You could the job out of your garage and if you 
> couldn't
>  make at least 200 that weekend, you weren't trying very hard. And, for a
>  totally blind person it's all done by feel. As it turned out, the guy who
>  was teaching the course at Perdue was a guy who played bass with us when 
> I
>  was on the road. When I met him at the class, we both asked each other 
> what
>  the hell are you doing here! I said I'm here for the course. Whatta you
>  here for? I'm here to teach it. He said he had been doing this all his
>  life working at his old man's shop sense he was a kid. I wondered why the
>  school never gave me any crap about the old blind people can't work on 
> small
>
>  engines. Don wouldn't have stood still for it.
>
>  After I took and passed the course, my brother in law decided he wanted 
> to
>  take it as well and asked me to go with him to kind of pave the way for 
> him.
>
>  I said sure. Why not. When we walked in the place, the class was twice 
> the
>  size of the one I was in. Don said I'm glad your here. I need you to help
>  me teach these guys. Are you nuts Don? I just passed the course 2 weeks
>  ago. Oh don't worry about anything. Here's what we're gonna do. We'll
>  split the class in half. I'll take half and you take the other half. I'll
>  be doing the teaching with my half. You show your guys the same thing I'm
>  showing my guys. I'll still be walking around helping people who need it 
> so
>  you'll be fine and think of it this way. We learn by doing and by doing 
> it
>  all over again, it'll make you better at it. So, after taking the course, 
> I
>  wound up teaching it 2 weeks later. When Don introduced me to the class 
> he
>  said this guy was on the road with us. He might be totally blind but he
>  knows his business. He is a graduate of this course and so, he'll be the
>  assistant instructor. To my surprise, nobody thought anything about me
>  being blind and some students insisted on calling me prof. Pretty weird!
>
>  Alan
>
>  Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>  There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on
>  the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!
>
>  The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
>  available upon request.
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "Dale Leavens" <dleav...@puc.net <mailto:dleavens%40puc.net>
>  <mailto:dleavens%40puc.net> >
>  To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>  <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>  >
>  Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:21 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Tacumseh engine carbeurator question
>
>  > Well therein lies the problem. I don't have a dealer that I know of
>  > anywhere near here.
>  >
>  > It is my understanding that they have about discontinued making 
> Tecumseh
>  > engines altogether although there are loads of sources of parts.
>  >
>  > I don't much like the chipper either but neither do I like the price of
>  > new replacements. I wouldn't care that much but I do have about 80 feet 
> of
>
>  > privet hedge which gets trimmed a couple of times a year and this year 
> I
>  > cut it down to about knee height and cut out a load of old trunks so 
> the
>  > hedge will renew itself. I might be able to burn the debris along with 
> the
>
>  > pruning from my rose bushes but it is nice to chip it up and make 
> compost
>  > or mulch. I get about a yard of compost every year between grass
>  > clippings, kitchen waste and other garden waste like hedge trimmings.
>  >
>  > While the town used to take stuff like that away they no longer do. I
>  > suppose they would if I bundled it and moved it out a bag at a time but
>  > that would take weeks and loads more work than feeding it to the 
> chipper
>  > and that is a lot more fun anyway.
>  >
>  > I have Honda engines on my lawn mower and my plate compactor. They do
>  > behave wonderfully well.
>  >
>  > Thanks.
>  >
>  > Dale Leavens.
>  >
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message ----- 
>  > From: Alan Paganelli
>  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>  <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
>  > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 12:13 AM
>  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Tacumseh engine carbeurator question
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > As luck would have it, I went to small engine school in 1980 and worked
>  > on
>  > both Brigs and Stratton and Tacumseh3.5 horsepower engines. It sounds
>  > like
>  > you've got a real old engine. They've just about wiped out all the 
> small
>  > engine guys. Everything on the new stuff is throw-away. I talked to one
>  > of
>  > the engineers who designs these things for Tecumseh. He told me his job
>  > wasn't to make a better engine but rather to figure out ways to make 
> the
>  > engine do what it needs to do and to make it do it cheaper. So, on to
>  > your
>  > problem and knock of the wining.
>  >
>  > The part is called a needle valve. It attaches to a clip that lowers 
> into
>  > the fuel flow closing it off. I would suggest pulling the carburetor 
> off
>  > and taking it with you to your dealer so they can get the part number 
> off
>  > it
>  > and just buy a rebuild kit. You will also need to replace the gasket 
> that
>  > goes between the engine body and the carburetor.
>  >
>  > Alan
>  >
>  > Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>  > There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on
>  > the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!
>  >
>  > The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
>  > available upon request.
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message ----- 
>  > From: "Dale Leavens" <dleav...@puc.net <mailto:dleavens%40puc.net>
>  <mailto:dleavens%40puc.net> >
>  > To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>  <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >
>  > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 6:43 PM
>  > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Tacumseh engine carbeurator question
>  >
>  > > Good evening,
>  > >
>  > > I have a wood chipper and leaf shredder powered by a horizontal four
>  > > stroke Tecumseh engine. The damn engine has given me a lot of grief
>  > over
>  > > the years, trouble starting after periods of inactivity. Oddly, this
>  > year
>  > > it has behaved fairly well. Then it began leaking fuel around the top
>  > of
>  > > the sediment bowl. The problem appears to be the little pin like 
> valve
>  > > arrangement which should close off the fuel flow when the float 
> raises
>  > and
>  > > pushes the little beggar into the orifice. Well I disassembled it,
>  > there
>  > > is a little spring clip which I was trying to figure out where it
>  > connects
>  > > when I lost the little pin like valve closer in the grass.
>  > >
>  > > I need to know what this little bad boy is called so I can see if I 
> can
>  > > chase down a new one.
>  > >
>  > > It is a 6 or 8 sided pin about half an inch long I suppose beveled to 
> a
>  > > point at one end and with a ring milled out very near the other end
>  > where
>  > > this little spring wire clip snaps onto it. It sits on top of the 
> float
>  > > so, when the float is up it pushes firmly into the fuel port from the
>  > fuel
>  > > tank.
>  > >
>  > > Those of you with mechanical training may know what this little 
> device
>  > is
>  > > called.
>  > >
>  > > Thanks for this.
>  > >
>  > > Dale leavens.
>  > >
>  > >
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