There are also springs in the new mattresses. It's why their so thick. They provide better support then the old stuffed only ones.
When my wife insisted on a new mattress and box springs, my back problems mostly went away. I think I've had 3 episodes of my back going out. I can tell because for a day to 3 days before hand my back is sore so I know it's coming. And by the third day, I have to lay on my stomach, scoot around until I'm laying across the bed and push backward with my hands until my legs touch the floor and the real fun starts. I will walk my hands backward as far as I can and the gambling begins. If I push myself upright with enough force, I'm standing. To little and I won't make it upright. Worse, to much and I risk falling over backwards. Not fun and hurts like hell. In general it lasts for about 2 to 4 weeks. During the worst of it, I some times fear that I may never walk again. So far I've only had 3 of these episodes. My brother who is 7 years younger then I am has back problems as well. I mentioned to him that 3 years passed before the second episode. He says the bad news is in general the next one will happen sooner then 3 years. Not quite but still less then 3 years but not by much. How high the bed is off the floor only makes it easier to get out of and into. Getting on my bed is not a problem. I reverse things. It looks like I'm getting ready to dive in but I repeat the walking with my hands thing and get in that way. I've learned you don't move around to much when your back goes out and spend a lot of time in a hot bath tub filled with hot water. In the end, it's about what works for you. I've been thinking about trying a tenns unit. Anybody ever used one and if so, did it help? Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfri...@comcast.net> To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 2:42 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Buying a new Bed? > Mark, > > You took the suggestion right out of my mouth. (LOLLOLLOL) > > It could very well be the box spring having given up the ghost. (LOL) > > Cy, The Anasazi, RMT > > > > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of mark > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 3:31 PM > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Buying a new Bed? > > > > > > why not try a piece of ply-wood under the mattress > think about this a captains bed has no box spring the mattress on that > type > of bed > has the mattress lying on a ply-wood base > and the amount of air under a bed has nothing to do with the comfort level > weather it is 2 inches off the ground or 8 inches it is still off the > floor > the air has nothing to do with the support of the bed > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Claudia > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 5:05 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Buying a new Bed? > > Cy, > > Our mattresses are in great condition, from what we and other sighted > people > can tell. There is no cradling, no unevenness, etc. > I don't know! > > Claudia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cy Selfridge > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 3:26 PM > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Buying a new Bed? > > Claudia, > > I seriously doubt if the height of the bed is the problem with your > husband's back. > > One of my daughters has a Sleep Number bed and that thing has got to be 40 > inches tall at the top of the mattress and it is ever so comfortable. > > I would suggest that it is the mattress or box springs which have seen > better days and are not offering the support where your husband's back > needs > it. > > We replaced the water bladder with two twin air mattresses and we are much > happier as each of us can adjust the air pressure in the mattress to what > we > want. > > I'll bet that you need a new mattress. > > Cy, The Anasazi > > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] > On Behalf Of Claudia > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 2:12 PM > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Buying a new Bed? > > Si, > > I have no idea; I'd say that it's 6 to 8 inches from the ground! > The problem is that my other half thinks that, due to the height of the > frame, his back is constantly hurting. > He tested his theory by sleeping on our son's bed, while we were out of > town; he has a captain's bed, and he slept very well! > So, this is why we're looking for a lower frame. > > Ours can't be lowered because it has four wheels and a stablizer bar, in > the > middle. > > Claudia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cy Selfridge > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:21 AM > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Buying a new Bed? > > Claudia, > > Sorry I ran across this after I posted my other response. > > Now, what exactly is the problem with the current bed frame? > > How high is the bottom of the box spring off of the floor currently? > > Cy, The Anasazi > > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] > On Behalf Of Claudia > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 2:16 PM > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Buying a new Bed? > > The new bed will also be a queen, with both matress & box spring. > > Claudia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cy Selfridge > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 2:13 PM > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Buying a new Bed? > > Claudia, > > First question, what size is the new bed? > > Second question, what type of bed is it, matress and box springs or some > sort of air bed? > > Cy, The Anasazi > > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] > On Behalf Of Claudia > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 12:31 PM > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Buying a new Bed? > > Okay, > > I need some explanation here. > We have a queen-sized bed that sits on a metal frame with wheels. The bed > has both its matress and box spring! > The headboard is what's called a bookcase style. It's the width of the > bed, > with shelves on each side and an open space in the middle. > We'd like a similar set-up for the new bed. > > However, we've been hunting, and this is what we've found. The beds don't > seem to have metal or iron frames anymore; they seem to have a wood base > or > frame. I'm wondering if we can connect a headboard to this type of bed or > not? > > As I said, the current frame is on wheels, so that gives the bed some > height; we need something that's a little lower to the ground, so it seems > that wood frames are the way to go. But, again, we also want this book > case > style headboard, and they're difficult to find. > Walmart has one by Sauder that we can put together, and this is what I'm > thinking of doing. > > Is it logical that you can purchase a bed frame separately from the bed > itself? Am I right in thinking that you can't connect headboards to wooden > frames? And if I'm wrong on this, how is this done? Would it be by > drilling > holes into the frame and screwing the headboard to it? > I'm not sure if this is making any sense, but since I don't have any > sight, > all of what I'm picturing here has been things that I've only been able to > touch! > > Claudia > > Windows Messenger: cdelreal1...@sbcglobal.net > <mailto:cdelreal1973%40sbcglobal.net> > <mailto:cdelreal1973%40sbcglobal.net> > <mailto:cdelreal1973%40sbcglobal.net> > <mailto:cdelreal1973%40sbcglobal.net> > Skype: claudiadr10 > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 5345 (20100805) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 5345 (20100805) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 5345 (20100805) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 5348 (20100806) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 5371 (20100816) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 5371 (20100816) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 5371 (20100816) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Send any questions regarding list management to: > blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com > To listen to the show archives go to link > http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=47:29 > Or > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > Visit the archives page at the following address > http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man > list just send a blank message to: > blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! 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