[uucdigest] Tuesday, March 11 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6207
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[uuc] More on Automanual RE: [uuc] Automanual ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:03:12 -0500 From: "Gaudio, Stefano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] '95 M3 Engine Noise Hey Ben I agree w you on the lightweight oil pan and that's why I mentioned but did not suggest it. I do remember clearly reading articles about the e46 M3 engine lubrication getting rid of the e36 M3 issues. So I did a quick search on the internet and found an article about it: http://popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars_trucks/2001/1/tri_power/prin t.phtml They call it a semi-dry sump pump and I'm not sure how it differs from a dry sump pump but it seems to be accomplishing the same task. Just trying to help :-) Stefano '98 M3 80K w 5-30 synth oil and no noises @ tracks or autoXs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:06:13 -0500 From: "mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Automanual The Auto M3s I have driven worked so well, that the downshift was instant, no need to plan ahead etc and they held the gear quite well thru a corner. I have tracked an Auto at Sebring and it never behaved in a bad manner, upshifting in corners etc. It can actually be annoying in city driving becuase it holds a gear longer than normal automatics when you release the gas pedal. It is the BEST auto I have ever driven for spirited driving IMO short of a steptronic Mike - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Cordone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [uuc] Automanual > Not true, it's also useful (i.e. smoother) for forcing a downshift in > preparation for passing (rather than waiting for kickdown via the > pedal), and for holding a desired gear through a turn. --SC > mike wrote: > > >M is not for performance, it is actually slower than using S mode. M is > >ONLY for starting on slippery surfaces, in a higher gear therefore reducing > >the chance of applying too much torque to break grip of the tires or holding > >a gear to maintain a steady pace in hills etc. > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:09:17 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: [E30] 325ic Clutch Replacement Pricing? It's hydraulic, just like pretty much all the other BMWs that I've ever seen. I think maybe the Isetta had a mechanically operated clutch? Anyway, they've certainly been hydraulic for over 30 years. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:05:50 -0500 (EST) >From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [uuc] [E30] 325ic Clutch Replacement Pricing? > >Hmmm..."San Francisco", and a "car that has not been driven on a >more than an average number of hills". Maybe a trip to Kansas >would change your perspective on what is "an average number of >hills"? On a serious note, you mention that the clutch has been >stiff since you got the car. I'm not sure if the E30 has a >hydraulic clutch or not (I'm sure someone will chime in). If >it's a cable-actuated clutch the cable may be binding, which >could account for both the stiff pedal and the slipping clutch >(if it's sticking enough to prevent the clutch from fully >engaging). > >Brian Daley >'94 325ic (sorry, it's an E36. Don't know too much about E30's) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:09:53 -0500 From: "mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: S54 wet dry sump In the S50, it is quite common at race speeds in long corners. People actually see it with oil pressure gauges. The oilpan and oil pump that came with the LTW were the result of issues with that. Mike - ----- Original Message ----- From: "ben keyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:05 PM Subject: [uuc] Re: S54 wet dry sump > KMS - Brett Anderson wrote: > > > Technically, it's a dry sump system, it's just wet, is all..... > > > > The S54B32 has dual pickups and a dual pump. The scavange pump pulls oil out > > of the front of the pan and delivers it to the rear of the pan. The main pump > > then pulls the oil from the rear of the pan and delivers it to the engine. > > > > This system works in the same way a true dry sump system works, except it's > > contained within the oil pan. > > thanks for the clarification. > > have you ever heard of people with starvation issues on S50/S52 engines ? > > is the theory that the S54 is that much more high strung than the S50B32 that it > needs a set-up like this or is it just a measure to ensure added long-term > durability ? > > > Ben > likes to learn new stuff. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:43:44 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Buying older 3 series After reading Lee's use of the word "pristine" to describe '89 - '90 325is cars, I would only add that there just aren't too many "pristine" E30s running around, let alone a "pristine" '89 - '90 325is. That being said, I would recommend an '89 - '90 325is as a good daily driver, and occasional autocross car for an enthusiastic driver. Repairs will start to become common if you want to keep it in top shape but they are fairly affordable if done by the owner. Some repairs are pretty cheap (brakes, some rubber bits, etc.), others can get more expensive (clutches, subframe bushings, suspension work, etc.) depending on the repair history of the car and its prior use (or abuse) and who is doing the work. Regards, Rich 95 M3 90 325is ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:03:53 -0600 From: "Brian Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] automanual- good greif. Here is the link to my local newspaper, "create your own ad"....You will note that when you select in the various boxes for year, make, Model, transmission etc, that Automanual is a transmission choice for the "1995 BMW M3 Coupe, 2 dr.", Now, my interpretation is that there are manuals that are only manuals, automatics that are only automatics and hybrid type transmissions that as you can see in this internationally advertised venue, are called "automanual". http://siy.cars.com/beta/vehicle_info.jhtml;jsessionid=DDLEZWKRVW5DXLAZGJBBA BY?_requestid=15032 So, you may not like it, but I didn't make this up, I saw it there last Friday when creating an ad, and I again, assumed it must be an acceptable term, and was certainly more descriptive than "automatic" as to the transmissions capabilities/ potential. Beyond that, I would assume that ANYONE inquiring about the car would ASK what that meant if they did not already know. If they didn't ask, they would be told regardless by me. Any interpretation beyond that as too intent would perhaps speak more about how you see the world or do things yourself. So, now you know MY opinion on that topic. Furthermore I had no idea how the "builder" of the car officially referred to it, and chose to use the term "Automanual" because I felt it was the most descriptive choice because I had just seen it used and because it is easier to type it than "5 speed automatic transmission with selectable modes" so, sue me for being lazy. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:08:51 -0500 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: Buying older 3 series Don't forget common stuff like horribly squealing belts....... ;-P Lee > -----Original Message----- > From: Dorffer, Rich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Robinson, Lee > Subject: Buying older 3 series > > > After reading Lee's use of the word "pristine" to describe > '89 - '90 325is cars, I would only add that there just aren't > too many "pristine" E30s running around, let alone a > "pristine" '89 - '90 325is. That being said, I would > recommend an '89 - '90 325is as a good daily driver, and > occasional autocross car for an enthusiastic driver. Repairs > will start to become common if you want to keep it in top > shape but they are fairly affordable if done by the owner. > Some repairs are pretty cheap (brakes, some rubber bits, > etc.), others can get more expensive (clutches, subframe > bushings, suspension work, etc.) depending on the repair > history of the car and its prior use (or abuse) and who is > doing the work. > > Regards, > > Rich > > 95 M3 > 90 325is > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:23:07 -0600 From: "Brian Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] automanual on Mercedes 300TD I have had a number of 300TDs over the last 15 years as well, in fact, I am so unimpressed with newer cars (Possible exception VW TDIs) and the fuel economy of SUVs , I would like to find another good example, an 85. My take on your question is as follows. If your 300TD had a 3 position electronic switch next to the shift lever with nifty little Light-up-LEDs to change from "Economy" to "Sport" or "manual"(select one gear only) modes, "I" for one would consider it an "automanual", However, be forewarned, that even with the mode selection switch, there are those who would accuse you of Misrepresentation or an attempt to mislead, should you inadvertently use that word instead of the following specific phrase: "5-speed automatic transmission with selectable economy, sport and manual modes,", but,....hell, what do we do now, your car is only a 4 speed??? So, furthering this line of logic, Since it does not have the "selectable mode switch", I would think a better description would be "automatic that MUST be manually shifted because the cars are so damn slow" <G> More freedom of expression <G> Brian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:33:04 -0500 From: "Binder, Larry - Spine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] automanual- good greif. It is probably referring to the SMGI (only available in Europe). A small number of them were imported. I heard that they were also sold in Canada.(?) Larry - -----Original Message----- From: Brian Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] automanual- good greif. Here is the link to my local newspaper, "create your own ad"....You will note that when you select in the various boxes for year, make, Model, transmission etc, that Automanual is a transmission choice for the "1995 BMW M3 Coupe, 2 dr.", Now, my interpretation is that there are manuals that are only manuals, automatics that are only automatics and hybrid type transmissions that as you can see in this internationally advertised venue, are called "automanual". http://siy.cars.com/beta/vehicle_info.jhtml;jsessionid=DDLEZWKRVW5DXLAZGJBBA BY?_requestid=15032 So, you may not like it, but I didn't make this up, I saw it there last Friday when creating an ad, and I again, assumed it must be an acceptable term, and was certainly more descriptive than "automatic" as to the transmissions capabilities/ potential. Beyond that, I would assume that ANYONE inquiring about the car would ASK what that meant if they did not already know. If they didn't ask, they would be told regardless by me. Any interpretation beyond that as too intent would perhaps speak more about how you see the world or do things yourself. So, now you know MY opinion on that topic. Furthermore I had no idea how the "builder" of the car officially referred to it, and chose to use the term "Automanual" because I felt it was the most descriptive choice because I had just seen it used and because it is easier to type it than "5 speed automatic transmission with selectable modes" so, sue me for being lazy. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:29:16 -0600 From: "Brian Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] More on Automanual More from The Local Newspaper automated ad creator . (See link sent previously) Here is at least one business definition of the term "Automanual" Explanation of Vehicle Characteristics Following are important vehicle characteristics you should be familiar with when selling your vehicle: Automanual | Body Style | Vehicle Class | Engine Cylinders | Doors | Drive Train | Exterior/Interior | Mileage | Other Comments | Price | Transmission | Vehicle Trim | VIN | Condition Automanual An automatic transmission that allows the driver to change gears manually, in sequence. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:59:20 -0500 From: "Dave Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Automanual I guess I could be called a male chauvinist pig by a "spirited driving" wife or two out there! :-) I retract my statement about wives and automatics. How about teenagers? Dave > On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Dave Kelley wrote: > > HaHa... E36 M3's still have either a manual or an automatic... period! <G> > > Nobody wants the automatics except for their wives, even if you call it an > "AutoManual"! <g> > > Careful there Dave! If my wife (hers is the 1995 E36 M3 5-Speed > manu-manual) reads this, she'll stick a Momo shift knob so far up your-- > Anyhow, I for one am glad she's not reading. Better find someone else > (cabbies? city folk?) to pawn slush boxes off on. :) > > Kevin > > > ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6207 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . 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