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200311/126: Re: E46 will not take 15" Rims
Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
200311/127: Re: E46 will not take 15" Rims
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200311/130: Re: E46 will not take 15" Rims
Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
200311/138: Re: E46 will not take 15" Rims
"Ike Moolla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
200311/128: Re: A better way
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
200311/129: Re: E46 will not take 15" Rims
Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
200311/131: Re: Snow tires and wheels for E39 and E38
ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
200311/132: FW: TracQuest closes Watkins Glen for 2003
"Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
200311/133: Re: 46 will not take 15" Rims
"Evan A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
200311/134: Re: E30 battery drain when parked - checking the fuseblock
"Curtis A. Ingraham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
200311/135: E34 535i
John Hoverson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
200311/136: Re: [UUC] [E36] Tranny tailshaft seal R&R
"Aaron Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
200311/137: Advice? (E30 convertible for sale with broken top?)
Olivia Teich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
200311/139: 1991 E30 AMP & Stereo NEEDED!!!
"Langsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
200311/140: E46 M3 CSL video
Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:23:11 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E46 will not take 15" Rims
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
on 11/10/03 1:56 PM, "Ike Moolla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just found out that the 15" Blizzaks on the E36 rims will not fit on the
> new E46. Brake calipers are too big both front and back.
>
> Rather than buy four new 16" Blizzaks, does any one know if a steel 15"
> rim will fit (clear the calipers)?
As I recall the E46 brake rotors can be similar in size (depending on
year/model) to my E36 M3. If that's the case with yours, whose details you
didn't give, you'd better be careful even with 16" wheels.
Only a few 16", none of which are BMW OE, fit my E36 M3.
Neil
96 M3
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:25:57 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Neil Maller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E46 will not take 15" Rims
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Neil is right, I believe 16 inch BBS RKs (which are no longer available)
clear the E36 M3 brakes.
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:40:42 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E46 will not take 15" Rims
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
on 11/10/03 12:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I believe 16 inch BBS RKs (which are no longer available)
> clear the E36 M3 brakes.
And the ACT LS, which I use for winter tires - but which are also NLA.
This is the kind of thing for which a call to Tire Rack is in order. They
keep track of which wheels fit what cars.
Neil
96 M3
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:53:39 -0700
From: "Ike Moolla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E46 will not take 15" Rims
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi Rob,
Sorry - I should have provided the list with more specific information.
The car is a 1999 328i (E46) without the sport package but with factory
16" rims. The 15" wheels (with Blizzaks) are from a 95 325is.
The 15" Blizzaks and rims were bought last season when we had an E36 and
the objective was to use them on the new(er) car, hence my reluctance to
purchase another set of snows (16") this season if it could be avoided.
I stopped in at the dealership this afternoon and they had a couple of
sets of brand new steel rims (take-offs) from E46 325i cars, (I think)
which I promptly purchased at $75CDN ($55USD) each.
So, in summary - it is possible to use 15" rims on the E46 328i
providing they are factory steel rims.
A happy ending for once.
Thanks for all of the responses from other listers.
Ike
>Ike, which exact E46 model/year do you have?
- Rob
>---- Original Message ----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [UUC] 120 - E46 will not take 15" Rims
>>Just found out that the 15" Blizzaks on the E36 rims will not fit on
>the
>>new E46. Brake calipers are too big both front and back.
>>
>>Rather than buy four new 16" Blizzaks, does any one know if a steel
>15"
>>rim will fit (clear the calipers)?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Ike
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 12:39:44 -0800 (PST)
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Cc: "Don Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A better way
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:40:24 -0600
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ike Moolla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E46 will not take 15" Rims
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I could not find any steel wheels to fit over the rotors of my 330i
with sports pack 3 years ago. I ended up getting some cheap (relatively)
Mim rims from www.discounttiredirect.com mounted with Yoko Guardex snows.
I sold the car last month, but I am pretty sure these were 17" rims. Maybe
a non-sports pack car could maybe fit 16"?
I loved the Guardex snows, the best snow/ice tires I have tried so far.
This year, I have a "snow beater" - a Scooby-Do Legacy AWD car. Based on
TireRack tests and Consumer Reports tests I got a set of the new Dunlop
Graspic snow/ice tires on steel wheels from TireRack. They were the top
ice and snow grip tires in the test and the price is right. I usually don't
car for Dunlops, but hopefully these as the AWD+ABS will get me to work
this winter :-)
Dennis
01 M5 silver/black
At 11:35 PM 11/09/2003 -0700, Ike Moolla wrote:
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>Hi,
>
>Just found out that the 15" Blizzaks on the E36 rims will not fit on the
>new E46. Brake calipers are too big both front and back.
>
>Rather than buy four new 16" Blizzaks, does any one know if a steel 15"
>rim will fit (clear the calipers)?
>
>Thanks
>
>Ike
>
>
>
>
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:37:06 -0500
From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: bmwuucdigest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Snow tires and wheels for E39 and E38
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
E39 wheels are not common with other BMW's as they have
a different hub size. you can use E39 wheels on non-E39
cars with a centering ring (get the metal ones not the plastic
ones) but you can't run non-E39 wheels on E39's.
E36 wheels will have too much offset (they'll be tucked
under the fenders more than necessary, maybe even enough
to rub on the suspension). this can be eliminated with
spacers, but that adds ~$100/axle for the spacers &
required longer lug bolts.
E34 wheels should fit on the E38 without trouble, assuming
you're not running big giant snow tires, which you wouldn't
want to do anyway.
speaking of giant snow tires, anyone interested in a set
of Blizzak MZ-01's in 245/45-17 ? they were on a friend's
Mustang for a winter & he moved to NC, so I'm selling them
for him. basically brand new, say $400 for the set ?
unfortunately I don't think they're a BMW-specific size, which
is a potential problem....
Ben
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:05:48 -0500
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BMW List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "911" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FW: TracQuest closes Watkins Glen for 2003
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I'm cross-posting this great summary report from Than Orens, who drives an M
Roadster. He was one of my students at Watkins Glen at the TrackQuest event
two weeks ago, and did a GREAT job. One of the quickest learners I've ever
had the pleasure of riding with (by "quickest", I mean quick to learn,
though quick on the track is applicable as well).
vty,
--Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Than Orens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 2:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: TracQuest closes Watkins Glen for 2003
Dennis,
I got bitten very badly by the track bug this weekend. I am
dreaming of owning a Porsche coupe to track, and attending more than two
events a year *gasp*.
I will conclude with a write-up of my own and a question....
1) Why would someone buy a 15 yearold Porsche 911 Coupe for approx 20K
when they could have a 2000 BMW M Coupe for about the same money???
I love the look of the Porsche, but am trying to understand the price
dynamics.....
2) My write-up....
This past May I was lucky enough to attend my first track event ever.
Needless to say it was truly a learning experience. It really is amazing
to have very experienced Track Instructors with hundreds of hours of
track time confidently telling you that your car can safely make a turn
at 80 mph that you just completed doing only 40 mph.
It is even neater to have that same instructor explain the physics of
why accelerating in a turn gives you more traction than lifting off the
gas or even (gasp) braking in the turn.
When we (Mario, Red Jen, Ed, Neal, Teemu, Scott) attended the TracQuest
event in May of this year, I confidently stated I would do this no more
than once a year, assuming I liked it. I was soundly mocked by Ed, Red
Jen and others who seemed equally confident I would return for the
second Watkins Glen event in October.
Time passed and the memories of TracQuest faded. In the intervening five
months I have logged many hours and assumed many additional
responsibilities at work. Leisure time has become scarce, and relaxation
a valued commodity. After Homecoming and a number of spirited runs on
the dragon with Ed, I remembered what the track was like..I polled my
friends to see who would return, and the silence was deafening.
I really didn't think I would go to TracQuest alone. I mean, I really
had a good time, but I'm no track junky. Not like Mario or Teemu. I mean
they have a real problem! *grin*.
Time passed, Todd Serota, who runs the TracQuest events gave me a little
extra time to register, and I was able to swing the time from work to
leave a little early Friday afternoon. My work from home strategy was
scrapped in favor of a Sr. Management presentation I had to make in
Manhattan, so I drove my M into Manhattan at 6am, parked in a lot, and
went about my day waiting for 2:30pm.
I was out of the Lincoln tunnel in 15 minutes, and Route 80 in no time
at all. Traffic was light, weather was great, top was down, and thanks
to Carl B's sub-woofer and Blazeman's Stereo wizardry, the tunes were
rockin'. By 7:00pm I was in the town of Watkins Glen having a beer and a
bowl of wings.
The weather forecast was rain late Saturday and all day Sunday. Knowing
the layout of the Glen, I knew I needed to be at the track early to get
a garage spot so I was out of the rain. No Panoramic photo
ridiculousness required. Sanity prevailed and I was settled into my
stall in the garage moments after the gates opened.
I got to meet up with John Gaines (titanium - 2001 M Roadster) and Neal
Mann (1.9 Z3) as well as Michael Cookson (M Coupe). My stall mate was a
Viper GTS with a modified exhaust that would make many Harleys shy away.
We went to the drivers training meeting and froze our fingers to the
bone standing on the cold concrete for over an hour.
When the time came, the Red (instructor) group went out and started to
warm up the track. 30 minutes later, the Blue group was allowed out, and
I got my chance to take it slow and easy as my car, tires and driving
skills warmed back up to the Glen. Amazingly, my skills were there
almost immediately. It was like falling off a bike! I was hitting the
apexes as good if not better than my last visit. I started my runs with
Karl, who focuses on speed, line and gears..we did two runs together.
Then Todd and I went out, and Todd taught me that I have never properly
learned to shift gears. WHAT A DIFFERENCE it made in my turns! THANKS
TODD! Then Dennis and I went out and Dennis focused on my shifting and
braking. Day one over and not a drop of rain. We were blessed!
Day two resumed my focus on braking, shifting and the line. Each run I
was hitting higher top speeds at the top of the back straight. Last May
I hit a top speed of approx 127 mph at the top of the esses, by the
morning of the second day, this time, I had hit almost 140 mph (as per
my error prone speedo). My lines were better, my understanding more
complete, and my overall time around the track decreasing.
I made my last run off the second day with my top up because the rain
was obviously about to fall. About ten minutes into my group's run, the
rain started. I slowed down as I did not have an instructor for this
run, and the number of cars passing me made for an unsafe environment,
so I decided to exit. Shortly afterwards, many other cars came in. It
was mid-day and since I only had two more runs, and they were likely to
be in the rain, I packed and headed home to surprise my wife by showing
up three hours early.
I met a lot more people this time, because I was not with my friends.
Track folks are the best. They are helpful, and willing to talk track
anytime. I met a Porsche driver Jon that we had met in May, and he and I
took turns filming each other's cars from the rear and front on the
track. Jon works in Manhattan and I hope to hook up with him shortly to
exchange tapes. Neal Mann was at the track last May, and I got to know
him better as well. Neal has a tendency to pass many other more powerful
cars in his 1.9. *nice* John Gaines drives a 2001 M Roadster and all we
both could say at lunch day one was "woo hoo". John drove all the way to
Watkins Glen from Iowa. Talk about possible addictions. Watch out John!
I was so busy this time I took four pictures. My son has my camera at
school, so I do not have access to them. I do have these two shots of me
taking the bus stop turn in May and again in October. Notice the
position of my car. I would guess I am taking the turn at twice to 50%
faster this time than last time when the picture was taken on the first
day.
If you even think that you would like to try a track event, then you
should. It is an absolutely amazing good time, and Todd Serota recruits
experienced instructors, and he takes your experience very seriously.
You are his customer, and he treats you with respect and concern. If you
are thinking about it, I strongly suggest you try one of Todd's events
out at TracQuest You will not regret it!
.
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:56:10 +0000
From: "Evan A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 46 will not take 15" Rims
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
AFAIK 15" wheels won't fit an E46 325 (or a 328/330 for that matter). I'm
not sure what year they made the brakes bigger -- 2001 or 2002.
Evan
'99 323i E46
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:56:51 -0800 (PST)
From: "Curtis A. Ingraham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E30 battery drain when parked - checking the fuseblock
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Idle current measurements at two volts are not valid. Charge the
battery, then measure again.
If this car sits much, you will proabaly want a Battery Tender or
other charger to keep the battery topped up. A battery that stays
in the discharged state will be quickly ruined.
Curt Ingraham
72 2002tii, et al
Improved 2002 Radiators
Mike Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My 1988 325iC seemed to be draining the battery quickly when not driven for
> weeks, so last night I checked for amp draw across the fuses (after
> measuring the battery at 2V!) while the ignition was off.
>
> I found draw across fuses 21 through 28. It was on the order of
> single-digit milliamps, but at 2V as I said. All others measured no draw.
> Some of these I expected, as the manual mentions radio memory on 21 and OBC
> on 27, however some of these make no sense to me. 22,23, and 24 regard
> outside lights and hazards, which clearly were not on, and 25 and 26 are
> listed as not used in the manual.
>
> I'm wondering due to their proximity in the fuseblock if something else
> might be going on that's common to these fuses. Bentley doesn't give me
> enough, and I don't have an ETM to study. Does anyone have any ideas or
> could take a quick look at their manual?
>
> Thanks!
> Mike Olsen
> '98 540i-6, '88 M3 and 325iC
> others...all in Ithaca, NY
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:38:04 -0500
From: John Hoverson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: E34 535i
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Does anyone know of a good source for headers, cylinder heads, (complete or
a good builder), also opinions as to what to do with the head, cam, rocker
arms, springs, port & polishing etc. I am looking for more low to midrange
grunt. What about sources for turbo or superchargers. I have heard Korman
only installs turbos they will not sell to bolt on yourself, and they will
build up your existing head if you ship it to them. I have added a JC chip,
new cat and Super Sprint exhaust, 540 brakes, Eibach springs, Koni
adjustable, 17" BBS rims, Racing dynamic sway bars and am very happy with
the results. As always I am looking for something to enhance this wonderful
machine.
Thanks all, this is a great list!
John & Lenora Hoverson
The Inn at Woodstock
Hartfield, Va
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:00:23 -0500
From: "Aaron Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mark J. Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"UUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [UUC] [E36] Tranny tailshaft seal R&R
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Assuming you haven't already gone in and done it this weekend, here are
my remarks. I have an E30 325 which as far as I know is quite similar, so
pick and choose what to read with caution...
Yes, you'll have to drop the exhaust and remove the driveshaft. For me I
tried to keep as much of the exhaust in one piece as possible when
removing it. It's good to have several buddies willing to hold it up at
this point. You'll have to at least remove the cat to up to but not
including the headers and it's probably best to just get everything else
(catback) out so it's easier to get the drive shaft out. I left the
oxygen sensor attached and just slide the exhaust to one side of the car.
You might find it easier to just remove it. (Find a place that rents O2
an O2 socket.)
Note that the drive shaft is compressible. Use that to your advantage
when trying to get it out. Try getting the tranny side free first then
the diff, because the studs aren't removable at the diff (if i recall
correctly -- and again my experience was with the previous 3 series). You
can then slide it out towards the front of the car. Note the orientation
of the driveshaft because you'll want to put it back in the same way to
avoid balance problems later on. I'd make a mark on the driveshaft,
tranny, diff. And make a mark where the driveshaft compresses, just in
case you separate it when you remove it.
The rear output shaft seal is behind the 3 holed output collar/nut.
You'll need a thin walled 30mm deep socket to remove that after rounding
out the locking washer. (I'd check the Bentley manual to make sure on the
size.) A seal remover is a big help in getting the seal out. Be sure not
to drive the seal in too deeply or at an angle. I used a short 2x4 and a
hammer to push it into place.
You might consider replacing the center bearing and flexible connector
(guibo) while you're down there. The gear selector shaft seal is also
accessible and can be replaced. This would also be a good time to change
shifter bushings and so forth.
I'm sure you know this but I'll say it again :-p Label and mark
everything that's removed! I used lots and lots of sandwich bags with
postIt notes inside to keep track.
How annoying is it? I'd say moderate. It's not as bad as changing the
clutch. I'd say it's *ROUGHLY* on par with changing the timing belt
(fortunately, your's does not have one), or overhauling the front
suspension. Probably around half a day, a full day if you run into
problems and have to go out and get parts/tools that you forget the first
time. But I'd start on Saturday just in case ;-). Let me know if you need
anymore details.
Good luck if you haven't done it yet and hope it went well if you have.
Cheers,
Aaron
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 10:40:41 -0500 (EST), "Mark J. Andy"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Search the
> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Howdy,
>
> Anyone ever replaced the transmission tailshaft seal on an E36 325is
> w/manual tranny? Mine's leaking a decent amount, and I'd like that to
> stop. :-)
>
> Just wondering how annoying of a job it is. Looks like you might need to
> pull the driveshaft outta the car (vs. shoving it off to the side or
> something)... which seems to mean you gotta drop the exhaust, etc.
>
> Anyway, just wondering if anyone had some "been there, done that"
> lessons.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:11:45 -0800
From: Olivia Teich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Advice? (E30 convertible for sale with broken top?)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi,
I have finally decided to sell my '93 e30 325 convertible, but while I
was taking pictures of it yesterday, the top broke. I completely
rebuilt the top two years ago and replaced the main motor, which has
just sheared its own arm off. So now I have a dilemma about what to do
and am hoping you can offer some advice.
I see three options:
1. try to sell the car as is (probably at a steep discount that will
not help in paying for the new car arriving later this week),
2. replace the motor again, which my service guys estimated at about
$1400, or
3. convert the top to a manual for $750
Would a conversion to a manually operating top actually be a selling
point on this car? (I so wish I had known about this option several
thousand dollars and many headaches ago!) Or, is the ease and optimism
that this fix will be the last worth more? Should I fix the top before
trying to sell the car or would it be more reasonable to try to sell it
with pricing options (e.g., this price as is, this price for a
completely working electric top, or price #3 for a converted top)?
One final question: should a new top motor have destroyed itself in two
years of moderate use? (With all the problems I've had with this top,
I've been selective about when it's worth opening or closing.) If not,
do I have any hope of getting the shop that replaced it initially to do
anything about it?
Just in case, after this, anyone on this list is actually interested in
buying this car:
It's black with a black top and tan leather interior, manual
transmission, with 70,600 miles, and overall in great shape. It has
heated manual sports seats, an in-dash CD with removable face plate,
power windows and steering, ABS, and 15" TSW wheels (in an eight forked
spoke pattern). Aside from the issue described above, everything on
this car is in excellent condition. I've owned and babied the car
since 31K miles (12/98, when I brought it to California). In the last
few months, it has gotten a new clutch, new timing belt, a valve
adjustment, and some other odds and ends.
Thanks in advance for any advice (or interest)!
Olivia
'93 325ic (for sale)
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:57:47 -0500
From: "Langsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "A BMWUUC Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 1991 E30 AMP & Stereo NEEDED!!!
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I am desperately seeking a 1991 stereo and amp with wiring connetors as
found in the E30 chassis cars . . . .
This unit has 19 wires that plug into the amp. I need the connector that
goes with this as well.
Please email or call 603-228-2888 . . . cash waiting!
Mario L.
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:33:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: E46 M3 CSL video
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
For those interested, here's a fairly long video review by Top Gear of the
new E46 M3 CSL:
http://home.concepts.nl/~pc100835/hco_topgear.2003.11.02.BMW.CSL.divx504.avi
Unfortunately, Tif Needel isn't the reviewer, but you still get to hear
the really evil sounding (in a good way) CSL engine, and they do flog the
car around, though not with as much style and aplomb as Tif. Interesting
that you can still hear the S54's buzzsaw sound in certain clips.
There's a continuation of the video above about BMW M history here:
http://bmwe34m5.com/video/TopGear-BMW_M_history.avi
--Andre
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