Vicente,

On 20/09/2010 19:30, Vicente Solsona wrote:
>>> #'extra-offset does *not* affect vertical nor horizontal spacing, so it
>>> does not save vertical space. we have to disable the collision first so
>>> the dynamics don't take vertical space and then move it for aesthetical
>>> purposes, so the valid example should be (after a native english
>>> revision):
>>
>> I don't really understand this. That is the example above simply moves
>> a dynamic such that it doesn't 'hang down' as lower as it did before.
>>
>> Sure this in and of itself will help reduce the spacing?
>>
>> This example is stating that #'extra-offset affects vertical spacing
>> but simply by using this 'tweak' you are moving an 'object' such that
>> it no longer hangs down as much and so take less overall vertical space.
>
> not exactly. extra-offset does not affect spacing. the title of the top
> section is "4.6 Fitting music onto fewer pages", but the hint is invalid
> for this purpose.
>
> if you are getting an extra page just because the \f in the example (and
> this happens often), using extra-offset won't decrease the vertical spacing
> and you will keep getting that extra page. the spacing engine still counts
> the extra space taken by the \f as it was before the tweak, and the next
> system will be placed exactly at the same position, not closer (at least in
> 2.12 it surely does).
>

Yes you are correct - I did a few tests of my own that verify this.

I understand the reason why this example is not correct in this context.

> so the hint as it is now confuses the user which tries to fit music onto
> fewer pages (at least it confused to me).

I will make an appropriate patch for the NR

Thank you for letting us know and your patience (with me).

James


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