Date:  Tue, 16 Nov 99 01:18AM MET 
From: "Edward Charles C. Lopez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>    
To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject:Re: (BUG?) MacOS 9 and the MacOS Netware Client issue 


  Currently the Desktop Management Services (Multiple Users) architecture only 
supports it's own user database (local or Mac OS X) and does not know if you are 
connected to a network like (NT or NetWare). Due to this design, the Mac OS does not 
know how to notify the NetWare Server or the MacIPX Client to request a logout call 
leaving your NDS Tree connection live until watchdog disconnects the user.

  And since one of the routine upon logout, Mac OS dismount all mounted volumes that 
logs you out of bindery or any AppleShare logins. NDS on the other hand works 
different since users can be logged in to the Tree without logging into any servers, 
they lose connection to the server but not to the NDS Tree.

  Sometime last month, Apple announced that they are planning on opening the 
architecture for 3rd party plug-ins/modules to redirect user info. on other networks 
(eq. NT or NDS), not until then can we work with that service.

  Just like dragging the volume/s to the trash does not winterize the NW Tree menu 
icon. You would need to teach the users to select Log Out Completely before logging 
out of Mac OS 9.

  The only quick workaround I see using NDS Osax with an applescript in the Shutdown 
Items folder to execute the logout call to NDS, see below:

  A workaround for this, would be to download NDS Osax1.0b9
  http://www.lextech.com/egb/ndsosax.html;, and then write a simple AppleScript that 
logs the current user out of the tree and place an alias to the script in each user's 
Shutdown folder. Then, whenever a user logs out they are automatically logged out of 
the tree.

  A really simple script would be:
  --NDS Logout example
  on run
  NDS_Osax_Logout
  end run

  You could take this further and cycle through the process list, quitting each 
application. That way all Netware volumes will dismount cleanly and not halt the 
logout procedure.

  Thank you for e-mailing Prosoft Eng. Support Center,

  Edward Lopez
  NetWare Mac OS Mentor
  Prosoft Engineering, Inc.
  www.prosofteng.com

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