I think you're both right (except the part about horrendous  
documentation - it's actually pretty good at this point).

Imho, the core team *and* the community has a lot to learn about being  
more polite. I think everyone is to the point where we feel justified  
in making each other mad. Some n00b asks a retarded question in a rude  
way? Bite his head off. Some jerk on the core team shut down my idea?  
Complain on the mailing list.

Personally, I've been really ashamed of some of the core team  
responses as much as I have about complaints and requests on the list.

How about we meet in the middle, and every work on being a little more  
polite? I'll try better to understand your frustration if you try  
harder to understand being overworked and underpaid.

-- John

On May 8, 2008, at 9:20 AM, mariano.iglesias wrote:

>
> How is calling the documentation horrendous polite? You have any idea
> the amount of hours people take to write that, not to mention that is
> a community effort? I tell you, with the likes of you, I don't doubt
> anyone would call you names, disrespecting other's people valuable
> time like that.
>
> On May 8, 12:07 pm, benjam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> perfectly valid questions for the simple fact that the documentation
>> for CakePHP is horrendous and any documentation that is out there, is
> >


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