Thank you Paul, Andrew, and asciimo for your responses. Your opinions were very thoughtful and thorough and provided me with some good perspectives to think about as I weigh my options.
Thanks again, Reid On Jan 17, 4:20 pm, "websta*" <subscripti...@webprogression.co.nz> wrote: > To me, at least, your asking a few questions here. > > I have personally used cake for commercial purposes for a couple of years > now, and the company I currently develop for (with a number of large high > traffic apps) are busy getting things switched over to cake. Cake offers > such an awesome toolbox / platform on which to build web based applications > in a huge number of situations, I wont go any further into the merits of > cake for now. > > I & the other cake developers I work with are mainly php trained web devs > who have gone out of our way to learn cake, and its this knowledge base of > course that in turn allows us to reap some of the true benefits of cake. So > are you going to get far without at least a decent understanding of cake or > a developer with this knowledge at least, no. Are you going to get a pre > rolled commercial application with 24hr live support and some guarantee > attatched? Probably not at this stage ( there's plenty of people out there > with some great cake based apps in the pipeline ). What you DO get is the > tools to create these things - but without some good knowledgeable > developers or consultants at hand to help you get over the bumps you will be > on your own to find the answers here in the google group or in the docs. > > As I've said CakePHP is a great, we have found it reliable, full featured, > versatile, scales nice and plays well in a number of environments. Community > is pretty good, and the more you can contribute to the knowledge base and > community as a whole the more you get back. From our point of view the dev > team are doing things the right way, providing a full featured framework > with a great set of features, solid reliable releases and sensible timelines > on those bugs and improvements and an exciting outlook for the future. > > Hope my (somewhat opinionated)comments have been a help, all the best for > your ventures! > > Paul. > > From: cake-php@googlegroups.com [mailto:cake-...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of asci...@gmail.com > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 9:51 AM > To: cake-php@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: CakePHP for commercial use > > Your concerns are legitimate for any open source software. Perhaps you can > find a consultancy that can offer you support for more rigorous challenges. > That way, you get the best of both worlds: free, friendly-licensed, > extensible, community-supported software; and dependable experts who will > provide you with personalized support. > > On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 3:32 PM, reidster <reidmckin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Although I'd certainly like to get to the rapid part of cakePHP > development, I'm not as concerned about the development time as I am > concerned about production downtime. I do not have infrastructure to > test code under load and for every possible query combination and > software version combination (OS, DB, App, etc.). If the system > crashes or does not scale for some reason, I would lose business while > I searched the web looking for an resolution. I don't have years to > become an expert in every little nuance. > And, if I turn a profit with cakePHP, donations would be provided to > the projects that support my business. Whatever technology I base my > business on I want that technology to be reliable, sustained, and > improved upon for years. > > Anyway, thanks for your comments. > -Reid > > On Jan 17, 12:38 pm, WebbedIT <p...@webbedit.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > I am looking to move to CakePHP as my commercial solution and I have > > shared the same concerns over my lengthy learning curve. > > > I've submitted a lot of questions to this group and sometimes I have > > had to resubmit the same questions in various different ways to get an > > answer, but I accept that CakePHP is after all free (although those > > using it commercially should really share a little love via donations) > > and the support is in the main provided by it's users. Plus nine times > > out of 10 the answer to my problems is simple and has been staring me > > in the face for hours/days! > > > The way I see it is CakePHP is a framework that you can use whichever > > way you want, which in itself generates a lot of support queries, many > > of which overlap, as people bend it in all sorts of directions to meet > > their requirements. Whilst it is taking me a long time to learn how > > to use the framework I know that as I grasp each concept the > > convention over configuration principle means I can easily and quickly > > apply it to all of my CakePHP projects (not that I have one project > > finished). > > > I am highly confident that my modest investment of time to learn this > > framework will pay dividends as my previously bespoke PHP coded > > applications that were really hard to maintain and update become more > > streamlined and maintainable due to the conventions and design > > patterns CakePHP uses, plus lead time of projects will reduce > > drastically with each project as I will be able to reuse code I have > > already written. > > > But it comes down to what your requirements are at the end of the day! > > > Paul > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG -http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1899 - Release Date: 1/17/2009 > 5:50 PM --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CakePHP" group. 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