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Subject: Re: AW: [Care2002-entwickler] Global PID
Date: 08 Mar 2004 21:44:33 +0100
From: Oliver Kupferschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hallo,

1. the PID should be unique.
2. there should be no central agency to control the numbers

-> only one human can be born on one place and one time:
the PID should be birthday + birthtime + exact birthplace (in numbers?)
+ some extra numbers (just in case 5 babys are born one the same time
and place ;-))


Oliver Kupferschmidt (MD)

Am Mon, 2004-03-08 um 15.49 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Hallo,
>
> I think the solution should be easy to calculate.
> Right now there are about 6.000.000.000 people on this planet. If we expect
> everybody to get his / her own PID we should cover at least one or two more
> decimals (to have at least a chance within the close furture).
>
> The next question is somewhat more tricky:
>
> How devide the people (I think one easy first step could be to divide by
> the used language or charset (easy to find out.)) into groups.
>
> Now comes the next step: If people use the same language or charset we have
> to attach them to some structure: I would sugest - the date of birth as a
> marker that normaly does not change and that normaly is known by the
> patient or possible to find out (ID - cards). Further brake down should be
> possible by the Initial of the last and the first name, phonenumbers
> etc....
>
> ... and build a personal PID number out of this informations.
>
> So my question, still open is: why would you want to attach the PID to some
> special kind of healthcare-provider ?
>
> If you want to define the healthcareprovider - I would kind of do the same
> way - first devide them by languages, then by countries, then by the typ of
> provider, the size of capacities and the phonenumber ...
>
> What do you think ?
>
> Mit freundlichen Gr��en
>
> Dr. Bernhard Tenckhoff
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>
>
> -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Elpidio Latorilla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Montag, 8. M�rz 2004 21:54
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: Re: [Care2002-entwickler] Global PID
>
>
> Wie sieht dein Vorschlag aus?
>
> mfG,
> elpidio
>
> On Monday 08 March 2004 05:28, Wilfried G�dert wrote:
> > Das ist absolut nicht ausreichend!!! Denke mal daran, da� wir in
> > Deutschland alleine 3000 H�user haben. - USA ?
> >
> > Weiterhin sind da die privaten Einrichtungen erfasst? Und insbesondere
> > die Pflegestationen bzw. ambulanten Pflegedienste oder auch
> > Altersheime? Also �berall da wo medizinische Daten erfasst werden?
>
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