Thank you Adam, I will send the email out to learn more about the ZCU111 work going on. I did join the Slack channel. I will check that out as well.
What would be a good way to build on these red pitaya tutorials to develop custom applications? On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 1:18 PM Adam Isaacson <aisaac...@ska.ac.za> wrote: > Hi Aravind, > > Great, I am glad you are sorted. > > I am not really involved with the ZCU111 anymore, but can say that there > are no existing tutorials for that yet. The people to speak to are Brian > Bradford and Mitch Burnett. I suggest you send out another email to the > CASPER email list with "ZCU111 tutorials" in the title and they should get > back to you whether they have something. There is also a slack channel for > the ZCU111. I did invite you to the CASPER slack group. I suggest you > accept and post your questions there as well. You will also see all the > posts concerning the ZCU111. > > I hope this helps! > > Kind regards, > > Adam Isaacson > South African Radio Astronomy Observatory (SARAO) > Hardware Manager > Cell: (+27) 825639602 > Tel: (+27) 215067300 > email: aisaac...@ska.ac.za > > > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 9:08 PM Aravind Venkitasubramony < > aravind.venkitasubram...@colorado.edu> wrote: > >> Oh. That was it. Even though I recompiled the slx file, I kept using the >> old fpg data file in the script. That was the issue. Now it works from any >> location. >> >> Sorry for the confusion Adam. I just didn't pay attention to that part. >> >> Is there any tutorial planned with the ZCU111 board? My interest lies >> mainly in the ZCU111 board and I was using the redpitaya as a learning >> platform to get familiar with the casper tools and environment. I get a >> flavor of the toolflow now. >> >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:51 PM Adam Isaacson <aisaac...@ska.ac.za> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Aravind, >>> >>> That is strange. It shouldn't matter where your slx file and script file >>> is located. I am sure I have compiled my slx file in a different folder to >>> the jasper_library/test_models. >>> >>> Are you sure you were not using an old version of your fpg file by >>> mistake i.e. before you git pulled the new commit? Just confirm that. >>> >>> Please can you send me the fpg file of the working one and the non >>> working one, thanks. I want to check the fpg metadata. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> On Thu, 16 Apr 2020, 8:13 PM Aravind Venkitasubramony, < >>> aravind.venkitasubram...@colorado.edu> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Adam >>>> >>>> 1 and 2 are as expected. I do not find any change there >>>> >>>> But upon reading your email, I realized I might be supposed to have >>>> saved the model file inside the mlib_devel/jasper_library/test_models >>>> folder. I saved the slx file inside jasper_library/test_models, saved the >>>> python file inside scripts folder, compiled it again and then I see that >>>> there is no error and I get the plots. Earlier I had saved the .slx files >>>> outside mlib_devel. >>>> >>>> Just to confirm - I should always have the .slx files inside >>>> /mlib_devel/jasper_library/test_models and scripts under >>>> /mlib_devel/jasper_library/scripts - Is this correct? >>>> >>>> Also, I had saved the first two tutorial files also outside mlib-devel >>>> and I did not face any issues there. Is this expected? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:38 AM Adam Isaacson <aisaac...@ska.ac.za> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Aravind, >>>>> >>>>> It is definitely the right commit githash. Please can you check the >>>>> following (1 and 2 below) to confirm that all the required files are in >>>>> place - if not then do a fresh git clone again: >>>>> >>>>> 1) Please check that your file is identical to this file >>>>> https://github.com/casper-astro/mlib_devel/blob/master/jasper_library/yellow_blocks/bram.py. >>>>> Ensure that line 35 has this "nbytes=self.depth*self.data_width//8" >>>>> and not "nbytes=4".hould always >>>>> >>>>> 2) Go to where your xml2vhdl repo was installed. Mine was installed in >>>>> my python virtual environment under >>>>> "~/venv/src/xml2vhdl-ox-0.2.2-py3.5.egg". Do a "git log" and you should >>>>> see >>>>> "commit 690ef929a8dd32aef...". >>>>> >>>>> If no luck, then tar your generated project folder under >>>>> "jasper_library/test_models" and send it to me via a google drive link for >>>>> investigation with the slx file, thanks. I am sure your core_info.tab, >>>>> which is in the project folder is not being generated with the correct >>>>> number of bytes. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> >>>>> Adam Isaacson >>>>> South African Radio Astronomy Observatory (SARAO) >>>>> Hardware Manager >>>>> Cell: (+27) 825639602 >>>>> Tel: (+27) 215067300 >>>>> email: aisaac...@ska.ac.za >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 10:45 PM Aravind Venkitasubramony < >>>>> aravind.venkitasubram...@colorado.edu> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Adam >>>>>> >>>>>> I still get the same error message when I run the python script after >>>>>> updating the mlib_devel. I had compiled the slx file once again after >>>>>> updating mlib_devel to create a new .fpg file. >>>>>> >>>>>> Connecting to Red Pitaya: rp-F07516.local >>>>>> Uploading: >>>>>> /home/cet/RP_work/models/rp_tut3/tut_spec_adam/outputs/tut_spec_adam_2020-04-14_1158.fpg >>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>>>>> File "tut_spec.py", line 23, in <module> >>>>>> fpga.upload_to_ram_and_program(file_fpg) >>>>>> File "build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/casperfpga/casperfpga.py", line >>>>>> 319, in upload_to_ram_and_program >>>>>> File "build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/casperfpga/casperfpga.py", line >>>>>> 747, in get_system_information >>>>>> File "build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/casperfpga/casperfpga.py", line >>>>>> 588, in _create_memory_devices >>>>>> File "build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/casperfpga/snap.py", line 59, in >>>>>> from_device_info >>>>>> RuntimeError: accum0_snap_ss has mask length_bytes 32768 bytes, but >>>>>> mem map length_bytes 16384 bytes >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I updated the mlib_devel from casper-astro and I get the following >>>>>> githash upon rev-parse "a9e87d994cf5f512fa0ea555ec7495d8dedc0855". It >>>>>> also >>>>>> says "Already up-to-date." if I run git pull once again while inside >>>>>> mlib_devel >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 1:46 PM Adam Isaacson <aisaac...@ska.ac.za> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Aravind, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have already checked out from casper-astro/mlib_devel then >>>>>>> all you need to do is do a "git pull" and then run the "pip3 install -r >>>>>>> requirements.txt" to install the new xm2vhdl. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have installed the ska-sa/mlib_devel repo then I suggest you >>>>>>> rename it and do a new git clone of the casper-astro/mlib_devel. Please >>>>>>> see >>>>>>> https://casper-toolflow.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/Installing-the-Toolflow.html >>>>>>> <https://casper-toolflow.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/Installing-the-Toolflow.html> >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> follow instructions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adam Isaacson >>>>>>> South African Radio Astronomy Observatory (SARAO) >>>>>>> Hardware Manager >>>>>>> Cell: (+27) 825639602 >>>>>>> Tel: (+27) 215067300 >>>>>>> email: aisaac...@ska.ac.za >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 9:41 PM Aravind Venkitasubramony < >>>>>>> aravind.venkitasubram...@colorado.edu> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Adam! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have one question. Do I overwrite the mlib_devel I already have? >>>>>>>> or install it elsewhere? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 1:40 PM Adam Isaacson <aisaac...@ska.ac.za> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Aravind, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The pull request in casper-astro/mlib_devel was just approved - >>>>>>>>> try that and let me know, thanks. This should sort your issue out. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/casper-astro/mlib_devel >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Adam Isaacson >>>>>>>>> South African Radio Astronomy Observatory (SARAO) >>>>>>>>> Hardware Manager >>>>>>>>> Cell: (+27) 825639602 >>>>>>>>> Tel: (+27) 215067300 >>>>>>>>> email: aisaac...@ska.ac.za >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 8:41 AM Adam Isaacson <aisaac...@ska.ac.za> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Aravind, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I suspect the issue lies with your snap shot (accum0_snap_ss) - >>>>>>>>>> it is 64 bits wide now and the others are 32 bit. You are probably >>>>>>>>>> using a >>>>>>>>>> version of the toolflow and xml2vhdl repo that does not support >>>>>>>>>> asymmetric >>>>>>>>>> bram usage - I just confirmed that. I would suggest you verify this, >>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>> installing the following mlib_devel: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/ska-sa/mlib_devel >>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/ska-sa/mlib_devel> (devel branch) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You will need to do the following: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1) git clone https://github.com/ska-sa/mlib_devel.git >>>>>>>>>> 2) git checkout devel >>>>>>>>>> 3) cd <path to>/mlib_devel >>>>>>>>>> 4) follow install in >>>>>>>>>> https://casper-toolflow.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/Installing-the-Toolflow.html >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You will notice there is a pull request on >>>>>>>>>> casper-astro/mlib_devel awaiting a review. I will discuss with Jack >>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>> evening during our CASPER meeting. Once that is approved then you >>>>>>>>>> will be >>>>>>>>>> able to use your slx file as is - >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/casper-astro/mlib_devel/pull/123. We were >>>>>>>>>> unable to support any BRAM size other than 32 bits originally. I am >>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>> pleased to report we can support all sizes again. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Adam Isaacson >>>>>>>>>> South African Radio Astronomy Observatory (SARAO) >>>>>>>>>> Hardware Manager >>>>>>>>>> Cell: (+27) 825639602 >>>>>>>>>> Tel: (+27) 215067300 >>>>>>>>>> email: aisaac...@ska.ac.za >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 8:56 PM Aravind Venkitasubramony < >>>>>>>>>> aravind.venkitasubram...@colorado.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that fix,Adam. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I understand what I did wrong on 2,3 and 4. I am still unclear >>>>>>>>>>> on 1. I will dig deeper to see what I did there to break it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The compilation went through and I generated the fpg file, but >>>>>>>>>>> when I run the python code, I get an error in the line where it is >>>>>>>>>>> uploading the fpg file to the ram and programming. I am not sure >>>>>>>>>>> what error >>>>>>>>>>> this is corresponding to. I ran the python file line by line as >>>>>>>>>>> well in the >>>>>>>>>>> terminal and also see the same error. I downloaded the py file from >>>>>>>>>>> github. >>>>>>>>>>> From what I can understand, there is no need to change anything in >>>>>>>>>>> here. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Connecting to Red Pitaya: rp-F07516.local >>>>>>>>>>> Uploading: >>>>>>>>>>> /home/cet/RP_work/models/rp_tut3/tut_spec_adam/outputs/tut_spec_adam_2020-04-14_1158.fpg >>>>>>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>>>>>>>>>> File "tut_spec.py", line 23, in <module> >>>>>>>>>>> fpga.upload_to_ram_and_program(file_fpg) >>>>>>>>>>> File "build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/casperfpga/casperfpga.py", >>>>>>>>>>> line 319, in upload_to_ram_and_program >>>>>>>>>>> File "build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/casperfpga/casperfpga.py", >>>>>>>>>>> line 747, in get_system_information >>>>>>>>>>> File "build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/casperfpga/casperfpga.py", >>>>>>>>>>> line 588, in _create_memory_devices >>>>>>>>>>> File "build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/casperfpga/snap.py", line >>>>>>>>>>> 59, in from_device_info >>>>>>>>>>> RuntimeError: accum0_snap_ss has mask length_bytes 32768 bytes, >>>>>>>>>>> but mem map length_bytes 16384 bytes >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 3:12 AM Adam Isaacson < >>>>>>>>>>> aisaac...@ska.ac.za> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Aravind, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have found the following issues: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1) The ADC yellow block was modified and the link to the >>>>>>>>>>>> library was broken. This meant that the number of bits parameter >>>>>>>>>>>> did not >>>>>>>>>>>> propagate down to the cast blocks and so they were still set at 10 >>>>>>>>>>>> bits. I >>>>>>>>>>>> see you added some simulation blocks, but probably broke the links >>>>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>>>> process. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2) The constant xilinx blocks for the imaginary inputs to the >>>>>>>>>>>> FFT were set at 10 bits and not 14 bits. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 3) The accumdat_snap snapshot had the incorrect number of bits >>>>>>>>>>>> for the "in_Ch_acc". This should not have been modified, as it is >>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>> influenced by the ADC number of bits. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 4) I fixed the bit growth through your system - hopefully this >>>>>>>>>>>> is correct now. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please see attached modified version. It should compile now. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Adam Isaacson >>>>>>>>>>>> South African Radio Astronomy Observatory (SARAO) >>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware Manager >>>>>>>>>>>> Cell: (+27) 825639602 >>>>>>>>>>>> Tel: (+27) 215067300 >>>>>>>>>>>> email: aisaac...@ska.ac.za >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:49 PM Aravind Venkitasubramony < >>>>>>>>>>>> aravind.venkitasubram...@colorado.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Adam >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I revisited the spectrometer tutorial after finishing the >>>>>>>>>>>>> second tutorial. I have attached the slx file along with. I have >>>>>>>>>>>>> modified >>>>>>>>>>>>> everything I could understand but I still get the following error >>>>>>>>>>>>> while >>>>>>>>>>>>> compiling >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The input type propagated to this block did not match the >>>>>>>>>>>>> specified type. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Expected Type: Fix_14_0 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Actual Type: Fix_10_0 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if you could take a look and tell me what I >>>>>>>>>>>>> am doing wrong. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 2:22 AM Adam Isaacson < >>>>>>>>>>>>> aisaac...@ska.ac.za> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Aravind, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can do any tutorial in any order, but as a beginner it is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> better to do it in order. The spectrometer tutorial should be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to work >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a 14 bit board, but if you go through the steps you will see >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spectrometer bit growth is based on an input of 10 bits. You >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> change that based on an input of 14 bits. The python script >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would also need >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be updated to handle 14 bits or so I think. This could be why >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiencing these issues reading back from the snapshots. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would have to see your script and your slx file that you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have updated in order to see if they are correct. Send that to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> me and I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will glance over it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam Isaacson >>>>>>>>>>>>>> South African Radio Astronomy Observatory (SARAO) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware Manager >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cell: (+27) 825639602 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tel: (+27) 215067300 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> email: aisaac...@ska.ac.za >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 1:04 AM Aravind Venkitasubramony < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> arve9...@colorado.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess I have to complete the tutorial 2 first before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jumping on the third one to get an answer why. I will see if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that helps. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 4:35:34 PM UTC-6, Aravind >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Venkitasubramony wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the confusion. I meant the wide(ish) spectrometer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tutorial 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 3:58:50 PM UTC-6, Aravind >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Venkitasubramony wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the spectrometer tutorial work with the 14 bit Red >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pitaya board as well? The tutorial mentions the 10 bit board, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using the 14 bit board version. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, going through the spectrometer tutorial with the 14 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit board, I get the following message at the terminal when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> executing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> python command. Can someone help me with what might be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue here? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Connecting to Red Pitaya: rp-F07516.local >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uploading: tut_spec.fpg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These are the devices in your design ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ['acc_cnt', 'acc_len', 'accum0_snap_ss_bram', >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'accum0_snap_ss_ctrl', 'accum0_snap_ss_status', >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'accum1_snap_ss_bram', >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'accum1_snap_ss_ctrl', 'accum1_snap_ss_status', >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'accumdat_snap_ss_bram', >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'accumdat_snap_ss_ctrl', 'accumdat_snap_ss_status', 'adc_dv', >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'adc_sample_cnt', 'adc_voltage_snap_ss_bram', >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'adc_voltage_snap_ss_ctrl', >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'adc_voltage_snap_ss_status', 'fft_sync_inc0', >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'fft_sync_inc1', >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'reg_cntrl', 'snap_gap', 'sync_cnt', 'sync_reg', 'sys_block', >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'sys_board_id', 'sys_clkcounter', 'sys_rev', 'sys_rev_rcs', >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'sys_scratchpad'] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> File "tut_spec.py", line 38, in <module> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spec0=fpga.snapshots.accum0_snap_ss.read(arm=False)['data'] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> File >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/casperfpga/snap.py", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 227, in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rawdata, rawtime = self.read_raw(**kwargs) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> File >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/casperfpga/snap.py", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 333, in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read_raw >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bram_dmp['length'] / (self.width_bits / 8))) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RuntimeError: accum0_snap_ss.read_uint() - expected 16384 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bytes, got 32 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "casper@lists.berkeley.edu" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group 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