I had started putting together something on the Confluence WIKI. Not sure how it fits together on the big scheme of things. Avinash
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Johan Oskarsson <jo...@oskarsson.nu> wrote: > We now have a first version of the site running: > http://incubator.apache.org/cassandra > > However, Matthieu commented on the wiki ticket here: > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15 > that he wants a decision on the site's future before moving on. > > The two options as far as I know: > > 1. Store the site and any source material in svn, publish to the > apache.org site. It could be raw html, forrest xml+generated html, a > script that generates html or something similar. > > 2. Use a wiki as the site. Confluence? > > > Personally I prefer option 1, so we can accept website patches from anyone > and leave the wiki as a publicly editable place for everyone to share > information. > > I don't care if we use Forrest or not for the site, it was just an easy way > to get started and a lot of Apache projects use it already. If option 1 is > chosen we can discuss what tool to use later. > > What does everyone think? Should we initiate a vote about it? > > /Johan > > > Sandeep Tata wrote: > >> I think the Forrest site is great to start with. If you check it into >> the repository, others will be able to contribute patches much like >> code and the burden of building up the website will not fall on just >> the committers. >> >> A publicly editable wiki might work too, but if only the committers >> have edit permissions -- much of the work for building the site falls >> on them. We want to quickly get to a point where the committers can >> review patches and guide the community in adding value to the code. >> Not be bogged down in editing websites :) >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.r...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Avinash Lakshman < >>> avinash.laksh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I guess. Isn't that easier? Is there something else that is the norm? >>>> >>>> No norm, just several different options. I personally like when the >>> source >>> used to generate the site can be checked in the repository but that's >>> mostly >>> a matter of taste. This for example is generated with Forrest: >>> >>> http://ant.apache.org/ >>> http://lucene.apache.org/ >>> >>> This is generated by a set of Ruby scripts from Textile files: >>> >>> http://buildr.apache.org/ >>> >>> And this is generated from Confluence using custom templates: >>> >>> http://geronimo.apache.org/ >>> http://ode.apache.org/ >>> >>> FWIW, a Forrest site has already been contributed so that could be used >>> to >>> start with until a sexier option is implemented? >>> >>> Matthieu >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Avinash >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Matthieu Riou < >>>> matthieu.r...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Avinash Lakshman < >>>>> avinash.laksh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I just got myself added as an "Author" maybe couple of days ago. I >>>>>> will >>>>>> start working on it. But there are other things too on my plate. I >>>>>> will >>>>>> >>>>> get >>>>> >>>>>> around to it soon >>>>>> >>>>>> So does that mean that you plan to use the wiki as a website? >>>>> >>>>> Matthieu >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Avinash >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Sandeep Tata <sandeep.t...@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Prashant, Avinash, Jiansheng... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any update on the website? >>>>>>> It has been several weeks since the project got into the incubator, >>>>>>> but we still don't seem to have a website. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think using Johan's Forrest generate site to start with is a good >>>>>>> idea. Are you guys considering anything else? What's holding us up? >>>>>>> Do >>>>>>> you need any help with this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sandeep >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Matthieu Riou < >>>>>>> >>>>>> matthieu.r...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Johan Oskarsson < >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> jo...@oskarsson.nu >>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ok, I understand. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On the topic of website I have suggested and created a basic >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Forrest >>>>> >>>>>> generated site here: >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nice! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No response from any of the committers on the jira or on the lists >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> yet >>>>> >>>>>> though. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I believe they weren't subscribed yet :) So what do other folks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> think >>>>> >>>>>> about >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the website and using Forrest at least to get started? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Matthieu >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> /Johan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Matthieu Riou wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Johan Oskarsson < >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> jo...@oskarsson.nu >>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Out of curiosity is there a reason to use a wiki without public >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> edit >>>>>> >>>>>>> access? Apache Hadoop, for example, have had one that is >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> editable >>>>> >>>>>> by >>>>>> >>>>>>> anyone and they have not had any problems afaik. On the contrary >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I >>>>> >>>>>> believe a lot of useful updates wouldn't happen with a wiki >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> restricted >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> to committers only. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I've started this way just because I don't know how the wiki is >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> going >>>>>> >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> used by the project yet. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Some projects use the Confluence wiki as their website and even >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> bundle >>>>>> >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> part of their distribution. In that context, only committers >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> should >>>>> >>>>>> be >>>>>> >>>>>>> able >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> to contribute. I don't think it's the case for Hadoop, they have >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> a >>>>> >>>>>> separate >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Forrest-generated website. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So depending on how the wiki is going to be used and how the >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Apache >>>>> >>>>>> Casssandra website will be built, we can decide to have it work >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> either >>>>>> >>>>>>> way. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Matthieu >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> /Johan >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu Riou wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've just created a new Confluence space for Cassandra, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Avinash's >>>>> >>>>>> planning >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> to use it and most projects find it handy anyway. If other >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> committers >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> edit access to it, please send me your Confluence user name. If >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>> >>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> have one yet, just register there: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> >
