Dave, Judy and I are about to install one of the very items: a hot water heat pump. We’re hoping it’s going to work but appreciate your warning. I would encourage you to share your experience with Heat Smart Tompkins so they are aware of this. They are doing all they can to make this transition work. **I want to second your point about reducing personal energy use. Since we are having trouble getting the government to respond effectively, it’s one thing we can do right now to make a difference. Besides, I can still hear my mother saying, as she turned off the lights in an empty room, “Do you think we work for Idaho Power?” Our parents know a thing or two about conserving energy.
Regi ____________ “If we surrendered to the earth’s intelligence, we could rise up rooted, like trees.” Rainer Maria Rilke > On Dec 11, 2021, at 11:02 AM, jasaul...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > From: bounce-126142461-89496...@list.cornell.edu > <bounce-126142461-89496...@list.cornell.edu> On Behalf Of Dave Nutter > Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 10:15 AM > To: Hurf Sheldon <hurf...@gmail.com> > Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu> > Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] A great read for birders to consider by Bryan > Pfeiffer > > My wife and I want to minimize both our energy use and our fossil fuel use. > Because of our modest income, we qualified for a subsidy through this exact > fund to get a hybrid electric water heater last year. It uses an air source > heat pump, which chills the basement, as well as the standard > much-less-energy-efficient electric resistance heating as a backup. After we > got this water heater, a representative of Halco, who bought out the smaller > local company which installed the water heater, told us that all appliances > these days are not built to last, and urged us to buy a maintenance package > with a yearly fee which would have eaten up our monetary savings on energy. > This morning we are having Halco come look at the water heater, because the > air source heat pump part, which was surprisingly noisy, has quit working. A > previous electric water heater, which came with the old house we bought, had > worked for an additional 20 years before it had any problems. > > We thought we were doing something good for the environment, and maybe we > were, but some wealthier people who burn a lot of fossil fuel for a more > extravagant lifestyle and realize their impact but want to clear their > conscience, those folks are also taking the credit. > > Carbon offsets are neither simple nor clear in the way they work, if they > work at all. IMO, there’s no substitute for actually reducing personal energy > use in general and fossil fuel use in particular. > > - - Dave Nutter > > On Dec 9, 2021, at 10:34 PM, Hurf Sheldon <hurf...@gmail.com> wrote: > > This is a very good option for carbon offsetting: > https://www.fingerlakesclimatefund.org/ > cheers, > hurf > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 11:24 AM Regi Teasley <rltcay...@gmail.com> wrote: > Totally agree. I have always thought that birders are a “sleeping giant” > that can make a big difference. > Regi > > ____________ > “If we surrendered to the earth’s intelligence, we could rise up rooted, like > trees.” Rainer Maria Rilke > > > > On Dec 9, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Donna Lee Scott <d...@cornell.edu> wrote: > > I like this idea, Bob. > > Re SPCA, they do more than any other group to neuter/spay feral cats, & also > cats of low-income people, with their free feral program & their low-cost > program for pets of those with limited means. I sometimes trap ferals here & > take them to SPCA. > All animals adopted from SPCA go home neutered. > > And to repeat what I have recently posted at various online places: > The Finger Lakes Land Trust really needs donations NOW for the purchase of > the Bell Station land from NYSEG. > for more info see www.fllt.org/savebellstation > This explains the way this deal works. > > NYS didn’t buy BS from NYSEG; nys just convinced NYSEG & Public Service > Commission to let FLLT buy Bell Station for later transfer to NYS DEC as a > Wildlife Mgt. Area, ensuring public access to this wonderful lakeshore-woods. > > Non-profit FLLT does a masterful job at saving land from development in > various ways & they always emphasize that what they do creates, improves & > saves habitat for birds & wildlife! > > Donna Scott > Lansing > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 9, 2021, at 8:31 AM, Stephanie P. Herrick <s...@cornell.edu> wrote: > > > I like this idea Bob, for two reasons: > > 1. It benefits two worthy and appropriate local groups > 2. The very act of making a mindful contribution encourages us to reflect on > why we are doing it > > Thanks for suggesting! Looking forward to others thoughts! > > - S > From: bounce-126137445-82496...@list.cornell.edu > <bounce-126137445-82496...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of bob mcguire > <bmcgu...@clarityconnect.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:20:11 AM > To: Dave Nutter <nutter.d...@me.com> > Cc: linda orkin <wingmagi...@gmail.com>; John Gregoire > <johnandsuegrego...@gmail.com>; CAYUGABIRDS-L <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu> > Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] A great read for birders to consider by Bryan > Pfeiffer > > Me too (a movement here?). > > And I have one small idea on how to deal with it. Bird clubs organize field > trips, and participation is free. What if each participant was encouraged > (not required, just encouraged) to donate - say - $10 to either the Land > Trust or the SPCA? The Land Trust because they are a major player in habitat > conservation, and the SPCA because they (and I’d have to check this out) play > a role in reducing the number of feral/outdoor cats. Local organizations, > local impact. > > Could something like this fly? > > Bob McGuire > > > On Dec 8, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Dave Nutter <nutter.d...@me.com> wrote: > > Better said than I could have, though such concerns have been brewing for me > a long time. So, how do we deal with it? As individuals, as organizations, as > unorganized groups? Thoughts welcome. > > - - Dave Nutter > > On Dec 8, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Linda Orkin <wingmagi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks John. > > Yes I had also read that, with great interest. Lots to think about. 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